The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[On the huh]

Though we consider the bubonic plague as something from the history books, that is not the case.

Outbreaks of the plague occurred in Suffolk, England in the early 1900's, with the last reported case in 1918.  The third pandemic was still active in the 20th century.

 

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According to the World Health Organization, the pandemic was considered active until 1959, when worldwide casualties dropped to 200 per year. In 1994, a plague outbreak in five Indian states caused an estimated 700 infections (including 52 deaths) and triggered a large migration of Indians within India as they tried to avoid the plague.

Not saying this is related to covid.  Just a history lesson.

[Naturale]

8 hours ago, Shawnster said:

To echo Jerry, I don't get your point.  As we already discussed, there was no vaccine available to end the Spanish Flu.  

 

Today's situation is totally different.  There is a vaccine available.  We are seeing how effective this vaccine is in combating this virus.  

 

So, what is the point you are attempting to make?

that pandemics don't end because of vaccines but rather pandemics end when the pathogen or its environment changes or when people successfully change their behaviours or immune systems.

Pandemics only peter out when the virus evolves from a novel killer to just another benign flu-maker.  

 

 

 

 

[Shawnster]

8 hours ago, Jonadab said:

but this one from covid19 will only end with the Kingdom of God 

A lot of Witnesses hope and think that, but we should not and can not say this with certainty.  We don't know what the future is.  We will have to wait and see. 

 

Jehovah's Kingdom is only absolute cure for all diseases forever. 

[Shawnster]

2 hours ago, On the huh said:

Though we consider the bubonic plague as something from the history books, that is not the case.

Outbreaks of the plague occurred in Suffolk, England in the early 1900's, with the last reported case in 1918.  The third pandemic was still active in the 20th century.

 

Not saying this is related to covid.  Just a history lesson.

Yes, those diseases still exist. The Spanish Flu still exists.  But it's not at a pandemic level. 

 

Pandemics end even though the virus doesn't go away 

[Dages]

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/coronavirus-in-israel-430-new-cases-147-percent-of-tests-positive-674215

Entrance of vaccinated to Israel postponed again amid outbreak

 

 

Even with the vax, people can't travel to Israel, pfizer isn't strong enough against the Delta... ho well

Edited July 19, 2021 by Dages

[Dhanyel]

3 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Sim, essas doenças ainda existem. A gripe espanhola ainda existe. Mas não está em um nível pandêmico. 

 

A pandemia termina mesmo que o vírus não desapareça 

The stress didn't let me explain properly, that's the point, correcting, only the Kingdom of God will end the Covid virus and the outbreak may pass ! Your point of view is correct, the virus will be present, but the pandemic situation could pass before Armageddon 

[Lee49]

10 hours ago, Old said:

So you know that vaccines will not end the pandemic?

You have a good source for this point of view?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-40ac92b1-1750-4e86-9936-2cda6b0acb3f

Follow the cheese! 😁

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bob]

15 hours ago, Jonadab said:

Yes vaccines do not end the pandemic 

Interesting. I agree and disagree at the same time! 
 

If the virus stays relatively stable and doesn’t mutate much, then yes, vaccines do end pandemics.

 

But if it mutates enough to evade vaccines, then a vaccine wouldn’t end it. 
 

But I would venture to say that for most of human history, “plagues” or pandemics ended naturally with the virus eventually losing its ability to infect and kill at pandemic levels. 
 

Vaccines aid in that by expediting the ending of a pandemic. 

[blacc]

16 hours ago, Jonadab said:

but this one from covid19 will only end with the Kingdom of God 

You say it as if you know. I don't like when brothers turn speculation into fact. What scriptural basis have you for saying this pandemic won't end unless God's kingdom comes? What if there's a cure or an end to the pandemic before the GT? 

[Eddie]

Sky News (UK) today saying that 60% of the new infections are double jabbed people. 

[Shawnster]

28 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Sky News (UK) today saying that 60% of the new infections are double jabbed people. 

Do you have a link to share so the rest of us can read the story?

[Eddie]

4 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Do you have a link to share so the rest of us can read the story?

It seems they've made a mistake. I just took a look at their story and they issued a correction. 

 

Here's the link: COVID-19: Vallance corrects mistake to say 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus are unvaccinated | UK News | Sky News

 

This was the original news that was reported: 

Edited July 19, 2021 by Eddie

[pnutts]

14 hours ago, On the huh said:

Though we consider the bubonic plague as something from the history books, that is not the case.

If you go to the Grand Canyon in the US they have a warning that the vicious squirrels there - their fleas carry the plague.

[Lee49]

https://explorethecanyon.com/the-plague-is-still-around-grand-canyon-squirrels-may-carry-it/

 

The Plague is still around

 Animals are unpredictable, and many of them carry parasites and disease, and in some areas of the South Rim, they may carry the Black Plague.

Yes, the very same disease that killed half of Europe during the mid-1300s is still present, but don’t worry. Doctors are now more than equipped to deal with the plague, and it is extremely uncommon, even in areas where it can survive. Only 64 human cases have been reported since 1950, and only 10 of those were fatalities.

 

Edited July 19, 2021 by carlos

[Amygdala]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

Sky News (UK) today saying that 60% of the new infections are double jabbed people. 

Don’t know if the majority of those cases are from the AstraZeneca vaccine, but isn’t AZ not effective against the new variant? 

[Eddie]

18 minutes ago, Lieblingskind said:

Don’t know if the majority of those cases are from the AstraZeneca vaccine, but isn’t AZ not effective against the new variant? 

They later corrected the story saying it was a mistake. They meant to say that 60% of the hospital admissions were unvaccinated. 

[pnutts]

19 minutes ago, Lee49 said:

some areas of the South Rim, they may carry the Black Plague.

Yup. That's where we camped

[DonnaR]

They later corrected the story saying it was a mistake. They meant to say that 60% of the hospital admissions were unvaccinated. 

Would that mean that 40% hospitalized are vaccinated?


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[pnutts]

Not necessarily. 60% of hosiptal admittance were unvaccinated covid patients. The other 40% could be vaccinated covid patients or a host of other conditions that maybe also test positive for covid, but that is not why they are there.

 

How many witnesses die from disease or severe trauma yet report mentions they never got a transfusion. e.g. terminal cancer, no transfusion but report states or leads one to conclusion that was no transfusion that caused death when in fact it was the cancer.

 

Or a real case someone in our territory told me when I was new in truth. Woman told me that J D nee JR died from not receiving a transfusion during birth of her son D. I didn't know the case but I later came to know the sister's parents and sisters plus extended families.

 

A few years later I asked JDs grandmother about it. Blood never even entered the picture. She died from shock and incompetent doctor at a small county hospital

[trottigy]

1 hour ago, DonnaR said:

Would that mean that 40% hospitalized are vaccinated?


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No, people go to the hospital for all sorts of reasons: broken bones, regular flu, heart issues, accidents, etc.

[blue-jay]

6 hours ago, trottigy said:

No, people go to the hospital for all sorts of reasons: broken bones, regular flu, heart issues, accidents, etc.

But the report doesn't just say "60% of hospital admissions are unvaccinated..."

But "60% of patients admitted WITH coronavirus are unvaccinated"

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[Dages]

7 minutes ago, blue-jay said:

But the report doesn't just say "60% of hospital admissions are unvaccinated..."

But "60% of patients admitted WITH coronavirus are unvaccinated"

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so 40% are ? That's sad.

[Shawnster]

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Sixty percent of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 are unvaccinated, the government's chief scientific adviser has said.

 

The way grammar works...  Yes, the story is reporting that out of all the people admitted to the hospital with covid, 60% of those people are not vaccinated. 

 

Now, of those 40% who are vaccinated and still admitted for covid, how many only received their first dose? 

 

Additionally, how are the vaccinated patients fairing vsm the unvaccinated?  Are their cases less severe?   Such information is just as important to know. 

[Lee49]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460

Covid-19: India excess deaths cross four million, says study

 

"The true deaths are likely to be in several millions, not hundreds of thousands, making this arguably India's worst human tragedy since the partition and independence."

[Dages]

6 minutes ago, Lee49 said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460

Covid-19: India excess deaths cross four million, says study

 

"The true deaths are likely to be in several millions, not hundreds of thousands, making this arguably India's worst human tragedy since the partition and independence."

Given our numbers, it's not a surprise. Official worldly death toll is certainly five fold (at least) underrated