Russia invades Ukraine

[LindaViktoria]

18 hours ago, VisualizeUrParadise said:

I think we are living through somewhere between verse 43 and 44+45 right now.. (of Dan Chap. 11)

 

And he will rule over the hidden treasures of gold and silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. And the Libʹy·ans and the E·thi·oʹpi·ans will be at his steps. 44 “But reports out of the east and out of the north will disturb him, and he will go out in a great rage to annihilate and to devote many to destruction.  45 And he will plant his royal tents between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

 

 

Although our publication explains that the report is hailstone message, that might change.

I don't know what this report is right now (if Putin has heard it already or if it's something that he will hear later)

 

Maybe he's hearing it right now. USA and his allies are supporting Ukraine in every way possible.

If religion is part of it, then maybe USA might do something to do with the destruction of Russia's religion.

 

I was also thinking this. Could this be the reports that makes him go out in great rage? 
Its different this time with the UN, the protests inside Russia and all over the world and the big sanctions. 

[carlos]

3 minutes ago, LindaViktoria said:

I was also thinking this. Could this be the reports that makes him go out in great rage? 
Its different this time with the UN, the protests inside Russia and all over the world and the big sanctions. 

I don't think it's likely. Those reports make the KON go in great rage and attack God's people. But protests inside and abroad don't have anything to do with Jehovah's people.

 

The Pure Worship book links "the final campaign of the king of the north" in Daniel 11:44 with the Gog's final attack on Jehovah's people. *** rr chap. 17 p. 183 par. 8 “I Am Against You, O Gog” ***

 

A recent Watchtower article suggests the same thing:

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*** w20 May p. 15 par. 15 Who Is “the King of the North” Today? ***
15 This hard-hitting message and the final attack by God’s enemies may be the same events referred to at Daniel 11:44, 45. (Read.) There, Daniel says that “reports out of the east and out of the north” disturb the king of the north, who goes off in “a great rage.” The king of the north intends “to devote many to destruction.” The “many” referred to seem to be Jehovah’s people. Daniel may here be describing the final all-out assault on God’s people.
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2020401&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=25

 

[New World Explorer]

There are already reports of sanctions biting hard.https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/russian-economic-collapse-will-be-hard-avoid-2022-02-28/

Putin miscalculated big way.

(Perhaps he was counting on western- soft sanctions as those seen in 2014)

Some factories in Russia have problems accessing certain parts that are sanctioned, production is stopping or going at reduced rates. 

People's livelihood is at stake, Russian currency is loosing value fast. Life-style of people dramatically changed.

Ordinary people will be demanding stop to war (Some protests are occurring already)

 

Ordinary Russians remained anxious about the prospects of a lingering economic downturn.

Over the weekend, social media posts showed lines snaking along streets with Russians attempting to take out as much foreign currency as possible from ATMs.

A European subsidiary of Sberbank, Russia's largest bank, said it has experienced "significant outflows of deposits in a very short time,"

The sanctions waged by the West in retaliation for Putin's actions are "unprecedented and severe," and indicate how the U.S. and its allies are being more forceful than the "tepid" response in 2014. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-economy-spirals-deepening-crisis-sanctions-send-people-panic-rcna17910

 

 

 

[Tortuga]

11 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

The sanctions waged by the West in retaliation for Putin's actions are "unprecedented and severe," and indicate how the U.S. and its allies are being more forceful than the "tepid" response in 2014. 

Joe Biden was the vice president in 2014 so he is probably very familiar with the response in 2014. That may explain his response now.

[Dustparticle]

Many in Russia and Ukraine are related together are now divided. It reminds me of North and South Korea. Boy, Satan is very good of dividing families.

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, Geralyn said:

Who" would these "soldiers" then be fighting for? 

Oh, I don't know, maybe Satan? 

[eliaseje]

51 minutes ago, carlos said:

I don't think it's likely. Those reports make the KON go in great rage and attack God's people. But protests inside and abroad don't have anything to do with Jehovah's people.

 

The Pure Worship book links "the final campaign of the king of the north" in Daniel 11:44 with the Gog's final attack on Jehovah's people. *** rr chap. 17 p. 183 par. 8 “I Am Against You, O Gog” ***

 

A recent Watchtower article suggests the same thing:

 

 

Yes, that is are current understanding although we will have to wait and see if that understanding may need adjusted. 

[Hugh O'D]

1 hour ago, Dages said:

We heard today about a Ukrainian brother who could cross the border in spite of the conscription because he explained about his neutrality and having to take care of his family who was with him.

How verified is this story? Do you have a chain leading to the congregation or the brother? I'd like to repeat it.

[Daniel244]

United for Peace Resolution, that's what is being discussed right now.

 

https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/whatsinblue/2022/02/ukraine-vote-on-draft-uniting-for-peace-resolution.php

[Dages]

36 minutes ago, Hugh O'D said:

How verified is this story? Do you have a chain leading to the congregation or the brother? I'd like to repeat it.

Unfortunately not. My source chain stops at the French Bethel, that's why I summed up the story in a couple of sentences.

 

 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Dages

[Dhanyel]

Just a thought.....

 We need to be neutral, but just to think that all the association's assets in Russia have been confiscated, assembly halls, kingdom halls, the country branch and our brothers' assets, now the price is being absurdly higher, they are losing a lot and much more with the sanctions imposed and the rest will lose once and for all at Armageddon.

[Semer]

I haven't been able to keep abreast with all the messages, so perhaps someone has mentioned something about this. Anyway, today in the news they were interviewing a Spanish person who is in Ukraine right now and he said that they are not forcing people to combat because there are so many volunteers that they do not have enough weapons for all of them.

I don't know if this situation only happens in that particular city or if it is generalized, but it seems like good news for our brothers there.

[Hugh O'D]

7 minutes ago, Semer said:

that they are not forcing people to combat because there are so many volunteers that they do not have enough weapons for all of them.

That ties in with @Dagesaccount. It's not unusual early in wars to have plenty of volunteers. It's as that pool drys up that conscription comes in. I.e. the longer it goes on the more dangerous for the brothers. Assuming we don't have starvation first.

 

17 minutes ago, Dages said:

Unfortunately not. My source chain stops at the French Bethel, that's why I summed up the story in a couple of sentences.

Bethel? Yes I'd probably count that as reliable. Not as a comment during a meeting but for private encouragement. Btw, thanks for that, my family are fervently praying for the Ukrainian Brothers physical and spiritual safety.

[rolypoly]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russias-role-un-under-scrutiny-as-ukraine-calls-security-council-status-removed?cmpid=prn_newsstand

 

..."Russia should be kicked off the UN Security Council," Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, said on Twitter. "The U.N. has become a complete joke and this might be a good first step to correcting that problem."...

 

..."I think that specialists in U.N. procedure are pretty skeptical that you can strip Russia of its U.N. membership," Richard Gowan, U.N. Director of the International Crisis Group, told Fox News in an interview, noting that Russia could kill the process "stone dead" with its veto.

Gowan also said that even if it were possible, members should be careful about the consequences of throwing Russia out of the U.N.

"There’s clearly a moral argument for doing that, it'd clearly be very satisfying as a political signal, but we should also consider that Russia on the outside of the U.N. might be even harder to talk to and even more resentful, making it potentially even more disruptive."

 

...”the possibility that Russia could theoretically be suspended of its membership by the General Assembly, where Russia does not hold a veto, similar to how South Africa was suspended in the 1970s over apartheid.”

[Dhanyel]

Governing Body Encourages Witnesses in Russia and Ukraine !

 

(year 2014) 

 

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/events/governing-body-encourages-witnesses/

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Jonadab

[Geralyn]

It is sort of shocking to me having not had "personal" experience with war as a resident of the continental US I was so saddened to hear conscription was occurring and am hopeful if this is true  ...

9 hours ago, Dages said:

We heard today about a Ukrainian brother who could cross the border in spite of the conscription because he explained about his neutrality and having to take care of his family who was with him. Pray for them, friends.

and surprised that their Christian neutrality was taken into account as it doesn't seem respected in Russia.   Wow, News and war is an awful rollercoaster ride!

 

My confusing question is based on who the woman in the video said that they are fighting for "This New World Order"!  She (a parliament member) seems to equate their Democratic government to "the New World Order".   I might be wrong capitalizing it BUT "the New World Order" is frequently mentioned as an end goal for the world by George Soros.   George Soros seems to take person responsibility in Ukraine and it's young leadership.  His mentoring many young government and corporate players all over the world gives him a formative roll in making The New World Order a real entity in the makeup of the WORLD.   He positively glows at his power.    He is happy about the US Democrat powers in place and claims to have played a part in it.    I am then thinking we have the "New World Order"!  I do draw conclusions these days as saying the TRUTH outright is NOT acceptable.   When trying to make sense you need critical thinking but it really disturbs people to think they brought this on themselves!   They were lied to!

 

[Paulo]

If true, there is a chance for Poland to also be bombed.

"they will be able to be based on Polish airfields from which Ukrainian pilots will perform combat missions"

 

EU partners to hand over 70 waplanes to Ukrainian Army

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3416412-eu-partners-to-hand-over-70-waplanes-to-ukrainian-army.html

 

The original post in facebook

https://www.facebook.com/UkrainianLandForces/posts/293772566188075

[Sofia]

11 minutes ago, Paulo said:

If true, there is a chance for Poland to also be bombed.

"they will be able to be based on Polish airfields from which Ukrainian pilots will perform combat missions"

 

EU partners to hand over 70 waplanes to Ukrainian Army

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3416412-eu-partners-to-hand-over-70-waplanes-to-ukrainian-army.html

 

The original post in facebook

https://www.facebook.com/UkrainianLandForces/posts/293772566188075

Oh please

if it happens NATO will intervene 

oh dear 

 

CNN PORTUGAL stated today Poland is in alert due to terrorist actions along the 500 km border to Ukraine 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Sofia

[Paulo]

32 minutes ago, Sofia said:

if it happens NATO will intervene

Not necessarily. As the attack was launched from Poland it could be seen as Poland made the first action.

Similarly to what happened with Turkey in the Syrian conflict.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Sofia said:

CNN PORTUGAL stated today Poland is in alert due to terrorist actions along the 500 km border to Ukraine 

Been that way for some time now

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR230/2afb1a6a

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR231/2afb596e

https://www.flightradar24.com/RRR7219/2afb4521

 

Just now, Paulo said:

Not necessarily. As the attack was launched from Poland it could be seen as Poland made the first action.

Similarly to what happened with Turkey in the Syrian conflict.

 

 

 

 

Been that way for some time now

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR230/2afb1a6a

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR231/2afb596e

https://www.flightradar24.com/RRR7219/2afb4521

 

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Paulo

[New World Explorer]

2 minutes ago, Paulo said:

Not necessarily. As the attack was launched from Poland it could be seen as Poland made the first action.

Similarly to what happened with Turkey in the Syrian conflict.

There is a lot disinformation circulating around. (The reports about airfields could be one of them) 
Will jets fly from Poland? We don’t know. 
Poland will not make this decision alone without consideration NATO stance on the issue. 
Nato is a tight alliance and all members consult about actions and risks involved. 
 

[Dhanyel]

Just for the record, I still believe that Russia is going to cause some much greater damage, nuclear weapon some action that will really be like an identity to have this such declaration of Peace and Security, it could happen that the Russian president dies too and they ask for peace and security , in the illusion that one of the great problems of humanity has been solved, or he is still alive just like Pharaoh stayed for him to see the power of Jehovah, in the end there are many thoughts, let's wait!  may Jehovah protect our brothers all over the world and especially where there is conflict.

[Dustparticle]

Might be heading to a WWW3

[Dhanyel]

16 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Might be heading to a WWW3

What does this acronym www3 mean? Thanks 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Jonadab

[Paulo]

2 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Might be heading to a WWW3

Not sure about that, but something is changing for sure.

 

The End of an Era

The Page of Cooperation with the West Has Been ‘Turned’

https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/the-end-of-an-era/

 

 

"Moscow has positioned itself to “become an agent of cardinal change for the whole world.”"

 

"‘Fort Russia’ has decided to put its strength to the test and, at the same time, has become an agent of cardinal change for the whole world."

(interesting choice of words, Daniel 11:38)

 

"The Russian Armed Forces’ operation in Ukraine marks the end of an era"

(the end of the era of pushing)

 

"World hegemony is currently being challenged in favor of a much more distributed model"

(Reference to the change from the unipolar world order to the multipolar world order, in other words, the removal of the Anglo-American World Power)

 

 

[Dages]

3 minutes ago, Jonadab said:

What does this acronym www3 mean? War War War 3 ? Thanks 

A typo for World War 3. Obviously.