Diet soda is fine, and other food truths it's time you believed

[Semer]

It seems that drinking too much coke has three serious risks: one, you may lose your memory. And, uh, second, er, I think that something...

What were we talking about again?

[Qapla]

MSG has never had any effect on me

[Esined]

Lucky you! It’s in a ton of stuff, not just Chinese food—including Sazón Goya which is used in a lot of Latin food and hard to avoid (ie at gatherings, restaurants) unless I’m cooking at home.

[Beyond the Sky]

I drink two to three cans of diet soda a day. I'm gonna try to cut it out completely soon because I know its unhealthy. 

[Bro_BT]

I'm okay with stevia sweetener.

 

I get migraines with aspartame, which seems to be a known side effect.

 

Aspartame: Decades of science point to serious health risks

 

 

• Dozens of studies have linked aspartame — the world’s most widely used artificial sweetener — to serious health problems, including cancer, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, seizures, stroke and dementia,as well as negative effects such as intestinal dysbiosis,mood disorders, headaches and migraines.
• Evidence also links aspartame to weight gain, increased appetite and obesity-related diseases. See our fact sheet: Diet soda chemical tied to weight gain.
  • Evidence linking aspartame to weight gain raises questions about the legality of marketing aspartame-containing products as “diet” drinks or weight loss products. In April 2015, US Right to Know petitioned the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to investigate the marketing and advertising practices of “diet” products that contain aspartame. See FTC response and FDA response.
• The FDAsays aspartame is “safe for the general population under certain conditions.” The agency first approved aspartame for some uses in 1981. Many scientists, then and now, have said the approval was based on suspect data and should be reconsidered.

https://usrtk.org/sweeteners/aspartame_health_risks/

[Shawnster]

@Brother_Bliss

 

https://www.sciencealert.com/popular-artificial-sweetener-appears-to-make-blood-stickier-linked-to-stroke-risk

 

Study Links Artificial Sweetener to Stroke Risk, Says It Could Make Blood Stickier

 

The suspected health harms of artificial sweeteners are piling up – and now a new study has linked one kind of sugar substitute to higher risks of heart health problems.

 

Physician-scientist Stanley Hazen and colleagues at the Cleveland Clinic's Lerner Research Institute wanted to see if they could find any signs that could warn people they were at greater risk of heart attack and stroke.

[New World Explorer]

On 1/17/2023 at 10:10 PM, Bro_BT said:

I'm okay with stevia sweetener.

I have read article  article on Stevia, and I am not sure if I will use it again. 
 

My personal view? 
I try to avoid anything “artificial” or modified. 
Even if they are saying it’s safe. 
 

Apparently this new research was accidental, as they were looking for something else and stumbled on that ingredient that was causing problems. 
 

 

Edited March 1, 2023 by New World Explorer

[Tortuga]

48 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

@Brother_Bliss

 

https://www.sciencealert.com/popular-artificial-sweetener-appears-to-make-blood-stickier-linked-to-stroke-risk

 

Study Links Artificial Sweetener to Stroke Risk, Says It Could Make Blood Stickier

 

The suspected health harms of artificial sweeteners are piling up – and now a new study has linked one kind of sugar substitute to higher risks of heart health problems.

Erythritol is mentioned in that article. Last year I had my own problems with erythritol.

https://jwtalk.net/topic/52745-sugar-alcohols/

[Brother_Bliss]

4 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Study Links Artificial Sweetener to Stroke Risk, Says It Could Make Blood Stickier

 

Yes, I've read this study and watched a few video commentaries on it. It is specifically calling out Erythritol. 

 

Erythritol is actually a sugar alcohol and is found naturally in fruits like grapes, peaches, pears and watermelon. It’s also found in mushrooms and fermented foods like beer, cheese, sake, soy sauce and wine. The human body even produces erythritol on it's own. These levels are considered safe.

 

The danger is that it's used as an low-glycemic sweetener in a plethora of low-carb/keto snacks at much higher concentrations. While these diets are supposed to teach you to eat naturally, the greedy corporations producing these products want the dieter to believe that they need and/or deserve dessert-like sweet treats. The sad result is that the dieter actually never learns to eat natural foods, because they get lured in by these "keto" processed snack bars, etc.

 

It appears that erythritol can cause your blood components to get stickier, and stickier blood components are more likely to clot, and clots can cause heart attacks and stroke.

 

Fortunately, this substance is not found in Diet soda.

[New World Explorer]

Well, in view of this new research following is concerning: 

About 90% of the erythritol you eat is absorbed into your bloodstream. The remaining 10% travels undigested down to your colon.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/erythritol#TOC_TITLE_HDR_4

[GeordieGirl]

I don't drink any soft drink at all, diet or otherwise.  I just don't like it.  

 

Another sugar alcohol that seems to have become popular, here at least, is Maltitol. It is used as a substitute sweetner in a number of foods. It has a very negative affect on me. 

 

Although these sugars are found naturally in some fruits and vegetables, they are often manufactured for use in other foods.

 

[Tortuga]

3 hours ago, GeordieGirl said:

Another sugar alcohol that seems to have become popular, here at least, is Maltitol. It is used as a substitute sweetner in a number of foods. It has a very negative affect on me. 

That is known for its laxative effect on most people. Candies with Maltitol should be eaten in moderation...

[Brother_Bliss]

18 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

That is known for its laxative effect on most people. Candies with Maltitol should be eaten in moderation...

 

This is true. It doesn't take much sugar alcohols to produce uncontrollable gas. Too much and that gas turns to liquid, lol. 

 

Eat a couple low carb snack bars or overindulge in suger free ice cream, and you're gonna be in trouble in about an hour. 

[GeordieGirl]

10 hours ago, Brother_Bliss said:

 

This is true. It doesn't take much sugar alcohols to produce uncontrollable gas. Too much and that gas turns to liquid, lol. 

 

Eat a couple low carb snack bars or overindulge in suger free ice cream, and you're gonna be in trouble in about an hour. 

I only have to eat 1 slice of bread with it in and I am very unwell. They put it in some gluten free bread here, for some reason.  I never eat low carb foods or sugar free ice cream, soft drinks  or sweets so wasn't even aware of it till I found it in the bread. 

[Qapla]

Since I am allergic to aspartame (NutraSweet) I am afraid to try any of the artificial ones, so I don't.

 

 

[Shawnster]

Chemical found in Splenda damages DNA: ‘Genotoxic’ discovery

 

Splenda is 600 times sweeter than sugar and is the best-selling artificial sweetener in America, with sales roughly double those of its nearest rival, Sweet’n Low.

 

But sucralose has been found to be genotoxic, meaning it breaks apart the DNA in chromosomes and can lead to cancer, according to new research published in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health.

 

In the human body, sucralose breaks down into a compound called sucralose-6-acetate, which can damage the lining of the intestine.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/06/06/chemical-found-in-splenda-damages-dna-genotoxic-discovery/amp/

 

 

[daydream]

1 hour ago, Shawnster said:

Splenda damages DNA

Spoiler

Thank you for the timely warning. I'll avoid it like plague

[ChrisW]

I use Stevia a lot but find I have to be careful with that too because they mix other stuff with it. 

[Shawnster]

I was hoping I could rattle @Brother_Blisscage 

[jps]

a doc said,

avoid any food aditives that didnt exist 100 years ago..

[daydream]

On 6/7/2023 at 11:31 PM, jwmom said:

I use Stevia

https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/stevia-side-effects#side-effects

There’s concern that raw stevia herb may harm your kidneys, reproductive system, and cardiovascular system. It may also drop blood pressure too low or interact with medications that lower blood sugar.

Although stevia is considered safe for people with diabetes, brands that contain dextrose or maltodextrin should be treated with caution

[Brother_Bliss]

On 6/7/2023 at 5:44 PM, Shawnster said:

I was hoping I could rattle @Brother_Blisscage 

 

Fortunately, Sucralose is not an ingredient in Diet Coke. So it's still generally safe.

 

However, I have chronic kidney disease, and my phosphate levels are too high. High phosphate levels can contribute to calcium loss and weakened bones, which gives me pause since I broke my ankle last month. My calcium levels are just fine though, but I started supplementation on my own after the injury, and the blood test was almost 30 days later.

 

It looks like I might have to give up dark colas altogether as they contain phosphorous, which I need to manage.

 

8 hours ago, Imagine said:

There’s concern that raw stevia herb may harm your kidneys

 

Well thanks for raining on my parade. Zevia Sodas are phosphorous free and an option I am looking at, lol

 

[Loopy]

10 minutes ago, Brother_Bliss said:

 

 

Well thanks for raining on my parade. Zevia Sodas are phosphorous free and an option I am looking at, lol

 

Zevia Ginger Root Beer  😋 💜 is the only soda I will drink. Personally, I’d rather use/trust Stevia than any other sugar substitute 🤢. But that’s just my opinion. 🥰 

[computerwiz]

38 minutes ago, Brother_Bliss said:

However, I have chronic kidney disease

 

I was on the path to kidney disease when Dr. Kevin fixed me up.  Pantaprazole was destroying my kidneys.

 

There are cheap ways to turn it around:  Grounding Mat + detox + reducing/eliminating medicine.

[Qapla]

I have found a very good diet drink that has no artificial colors, flavors, sweeteners or additives ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's called water