Russia invades Ukraine

[New World Explorer]

Every war eventually ends. 
War in Ukraine will end too. 
Will nations proclaim new era of peace and security when last bullet is heard? 
Will Putin be forced to resign? 
We don’t know, but we know that we are living very close to the end, so anything is possible. 

[Sofia]

Russians are NOT happy

 

Russian officials call for Putin to be toppled over Ukraine war  - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-dissent-ukraine-war-b2165541.html

 

https://www.cityam.com/nervous-kremlin-faces-growing-efforts-from-all-sides-within-russia-to-topple-putin-as-coup-rumours-swell-in-moscow/

[New World Explorer]

12 hours ago, Tortuga said:

This could create another test of our neutrality if we start cheering for the underdog in our hearts...

You mean for (underdog)  Russia ? LOL 😂

[hatcheckgirl]

On 9/13/2022 at 8:51 AM, Sofia said:

Russians are NOT happy

 

Russian officials call for Putin to be toppled over Ukraine war  - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-dissent-ukraine-war-b2165541.html

 

https://www.cityam.com/nervous-kremlin-faces-growing-efforts-from-all-sides-within-russia-to-topple-putin-as-coup-rumours-swell-in-moscow/

Well, it didn’t take them long. 
 

A group of local politicians may have their district council dissolved after calling for the sacking of President Vladimir Putin for a series of reasons including Russia's military losses in Ukraine and the damage to its economy from Western sanctions.

Etc etc etc
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/russian-council-faces-dissolution-after-call-for-vladimir-putins-removal/0d1prwih7?cid=newsapp:socialshare:other

[New World Explorer]

Interesting summary of Russia's economy under sanctions. 

Kremlin "officially" laughs off sanctions, but reality could be very different, forcing them to eventual peace agreement.

 

 

[Sheep]

11 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Well, it didn’t take them long. 
 

A group of local politicians may have their district council dissolved after calling for the sacking of President Vladimir Putin for a series of reasons including Russia's military losses in Ukraine and the damage to its economy from Western sanctions.

Etc etc etc
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/russian-council-faces-dissolution-after-call-for-vladimir-putins-removal/0d1prwih7?cid=newsapp:socialshare:other

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While posing no current threat to Mr Putin's grip on power, the moves mark rare expressions of dissent by elected representatives at a time when Russians risk heavy prison sentences for "discrediting" the armed forces or spreading "deliberately false information" about them.

I wonder how they'll react when Jehovah "discredits" Russia at Armageddon... Will he be risking a heavy prison sentence for spreading "deliberately false information"?

[Sofia]

“We are working to ensure that the strongest subjects of the free world become guarantors of the security of our state,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksyy said in his overnight address. “Together with our partners, we have already built a powerful anti-war coalition, which includes dozens of different states.

“Now we are working to ensure that the most powerful states that are already helping us become a coalition of peace that will last forever,” he added. 

source: https://thewallstreetpost.com/russia-decries-ukraines-calls-for-nato-like-security-coalition-as-prologue-to-wwiii/

[Dhanyel]

Exclusive: As war began, Putin rejected a Ukraine peace deal recommended by aide

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/

[Amygdala]

On 9/13/2022 at 2:51 AM, Sofia said:

Russians are NOT happy

 

Russian officials call for Putin to be toppled over Ukraine war  - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-dissent-ukraine-war-b2165541.html

 

https://www.cityam.com/nervous-kremlin-faces-growing-efforts-from-all-sides-within-russia-to-topple-putin-as-coup-rumours-swell-in-moscow/

From that second article:

 

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The municipal deputies from the Smolninsky District Council in St. Petersburg wrote on Twitter that Russia’s parliament should remove Putin and charge him with high treason for launching the war in Ukraine.

 

[Amygdala]

Later that Dmitry politician posted this on twitter:

 

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Суд признал меня виновным в дискредитации из-за письма об отставке Путина. Штраф 46000 рублей. Мы будем обжаловать это решение

 

The court found me guilty of defamation over Putin's resignation letter. The fine was 46,000 roubles. We will appeal against this decision

 

 

[Sofia]

Pope: Supplying weapons to Ukraine 'morally acceptable' if used for defence

The pope has given his blessings for countries to supply Ukraine with weapons if they are used in self-defence.
 

Source:  https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-updates-putin-rejected-deal-that-met-his-demands-on-ukraine-before-war-12541713?postid=4472993#liveblog-body

[Sofia]

Interest reading quoting other sources: https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-kremlin-aide-abbas-gallyamov-says-russian-president-vladimir-putin-could-be-ousted-within-months

 

Putin’s forces, many of which have been retreating in the face of Ukraine’s onslaught, have been petering out for some time now, sabotaging their own equipment. Putin has become so desperate he has tried to create a new fighting force made up of “recruited” prisoners. But at this stage in the conflict, if Putin were to lean on a broader mobilization or draft, the public would revolt, Gallyamov predicted.

“If Putin starts making this national draft, he really faces the danger of riots,” Galyamov said. “Russians are not willing to go to wage this war. They are not ready to go and sacrifice their lives, especially at the moment when the Ukrainians are advancing and Russians are retreating.”

 

One Russian politician, the head of Russia’s Communist Party, said this week a mobilization would be necessary in the coming days to address the dire needs of the conflict.

“The maximum mobilization of forces and resources is now required,” Gennady Zyuganov said, acknowledging that Putin’s “special” military operation—which has been branded as a limited operation previously—is indeed a war.

 

 

 

 

[Dustparticle]

39 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Pope: Supplying weapons to Ukraine 'morally acceptable' if used for defence

The pope has given his blessings for countries to supply Ukraine with weapons if they are used in self-defence.
 

Source:  https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-updates-putin-rejected-deal-that-met-his-demands-on-ukraine-before-war-12541713?postid=4472993#liveblog-body

Nothing new here. It has been going on for years.

[New World Explorer]

51 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Pope: Supplying weapons to Ukraine 'morally acceptable' if used for defence

The pope has given his blessings for countries to supply Ukraine with weapons if they are used in self-defence.
 

Source:  https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-updates-putin-rejected-deal-that-met-his-demands-on-ukraine-before-war-12541713?postid=4472993#liveblog-body

His involvement in politics is very clear.

What a difference between them and GB, when it touches on matters of war in Ukraine.

[Dustparticle]

3 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

His involvement in politics is very clear.

What a difference between them and GB, when it touches on matters of war in Ukraine.

What a difference between them and Gods people as a whole. GB is not our leaders, they are our brothers and we are one.

[Dhanyel]

2 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

Que diferença entre eles e o povo de Deus como um todo. GB não são nossos líderes, eles são nossos irmãos e nós somos um.

But they take the lead in providing the food at the proper time and advancing Kingdom interests on earth! They are our brothers but with double honor!

[New World Explorer]

2 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

What a difference between them and Gods people as a whole. GB is not our leaders, they are our brothers and we are one.

Well, FDS is dispensing spiritual food and we are partakers of that provision, and yes we are all united in Jehovah's worship. GB are not leaders, but they play extremely important role in leading God's people today. In the past at Pentecost 33 C.E., the apostles began to take the lead in the Christian congregation. this role of leading is granted to modern day GB.

We are "one" but with different responsibilities. Heb 13:7. 

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, New World Explorer said:

Well, FDS is dispensing spiritual food and we are partakers of that provision, and yes we are all united in Jehovah's worship. GB are not leaders, but they play extremely important role in leading God's people today. In the past at Pentecost 33 C.E., the apostles began to take the lead in the Christian congregation. this role of leading is granted to modern day GB.

We are "one" but with different responsibilities. Heb 13:7. 

Now I understand more what you are saying. Thanks my brother.

[Sofia]

InKasaquistan yesterday India and China affirmed they won’t sacrifice themselves for the Russia Federation 

Putin said to Indian counterpart he wishes to end this was fast enough.

 

KOTN more and more isolated as foretold 

jehovah s day is approaching fast.

 

keeping on the watch

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Sofia

[Sofia]

5 hours ago, Sofia said:

InKasaquistan yesterday India and China affirmed they won’t sacrifice themselves for the Russia Federation 

Putin said to Indian counterpart he wishes to end this was fast enough.

 

KOTN more and more isolated as foretold 

jehovah s day is approaching fast.

 

keeping on the watch

 

https://www.editorji.com/world-news/vladimir-putin-is-further-isolating-himself-from-international-community-1663410979666

[Jimi-L]

Putin is unlikely to remain president for long. Whenever the leader of Russia makes a severe mistake, sooner or later there is a change of power.

[campanula]

9 minutes ago, Jimi-L said:

Putin is unlikely to remain president for long. Whenever the leader of Russia makes a severe mistake, sooner or later there is a change of power.

May Jehovah hear your words!

And I'm sure the whole world would say Amen!

But sometimes changes may be to the worse.

[rocket]

1 hour ago, Jimi-L said:

Putin is unlikely to remain president for long. Whenever the leader of Russia makes a severe mistake, sooner or later there is a change of power.

The question is however, will the next President be dove or hawk?

[campanula]

Just now, rocket said:

The question is however, will the next President be dove or hawk?

It well may be military  junta, I'm afraid...

[Hugh O'D]

3 hours ago, campanula said:

sometimes changes may be to the worse.

Putin isn't the KOTN, that's Russia and its allies. 

 

What's Russia like? As one of my sources put it, "The last time Russia had a free election they voted for a KGB agent".  The background that gave us Putin has not been changed by this war and will give his replacement. I. E. When, if, Putin is Putout the next leader will be Putwo.*

 

Our current understanding of Daniel 11 and 12 is that the KOTN falls when Michael stands up at Armageddon. He looks set to face some serious embarrassment but the fall of Afghanistan didn't end the KOTS or its current representative President Biden so the KOTN will survive this too. For the moment. 

 

 

*Yes I've been dying to use those puns.