Russia invades Ukraine

[New World Explorer]

A missile that killed two people in Poland on Tuesday may have been fired by Ukraine at an incoming Russian missile, according to intelligence shared in a meeting of G7 and Nato leaders on Wednesday.

Findings from initial investigations discussed in the emergency meeting on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Bali suggest that the missile may have been fired by Ukraine’s air defence systems to destroy a Russian missile fired at the country before landing in Poland, according to people familiar with the discussions.

Investigations are still ongoing and no final conclusion has been drawn, the people added.https://www.ft.com/content/512393a5-d548-4509-86e1-e587fc230e33

[jrnievas]

 

this is the reason why this war is different from Crimean war and other wars where KOTN participated before ..

[Sofia]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/11/16/g20-bali-leaders-declaration/

 

Debunking: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/despite-criticism-russia-hails-balanced-g20-leaders-declaration-2022-11-16/

 

Despite criticism, Russia hails 'balanced' G20 leaders' declaration

Reuters

 

Summary

• Kremlin says G20 leaders' declaration 'constructive'
• Publishes Russian translation on official site
• Includes references to Russian 'aggression' and 'war in Ukraine'
• Russian journalists, activists face jail terms for such language

LONDON, Nov 16 (Reuters) - Russia on Wednesday hailed the G20 leaders' declaration, which mentions the "immense human suffering" caused by the war in Ukraine, as a "balanced text" that Russian diplomats worked hard to influence.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine dominated the G20 summit in Bali, Indonesia, with wrangling over the wording of a final document lasting until the final hours of the summit.

In a section on Ukraine - point 3 of the 52-point document - the leaders said: "Most members strongly condemned the war in Ukraine and stressed it is causing immense human suffering and exacerbating existing fragilities in the global economy - constraining growth, increasing inflation, disrupting supply chains, heightening energy and food insecurity, and elevating financial stability risks."

 

The document also noted there were "other views and different assessments of the situation" and said the G20 was "not the forum to resolve security issues".

The Kremlin published a full and accurate Russian translation of the declaration on its website - a surprising move given that the wording was sharply critical of Moscow.

The statement used the word "war", referred to "aggression by the Russian Federation against Ukraine" and mentioned demands from most of the G20 for Moscow's "complete and unconditional withdrawal" from Ukrainian territory.

Russian media outlets are banned from using the terms "war" or "invasion" to describe what Moscow calls its "special military operation" in Ukraine.

Laws passed after the Feb. 24 invasion set punishments of up to five years' jail for discrediting Russia's armed forces, and up to 15 years for spreading deliberately false information about them.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the final text was an achievement for Russia.

Edited November 17, 2022 by Sofia

[Doak]

Daniel 11:40 - “In the time of the end the king of the south will engage with him in a pushing, and against him the king of the north will storm with chariots and horsemen and many ships; and he will enter into the lands and sweep through like a flood."

 

Does this text indicate that there will be a Third World War? He says that the King of the North (Russia and allies) will attack the King of the South (United States and United Kingdom) with chariots, horsemen and many ships. It hasn't happened yet, so is it proof that it will?

[Jimi-L]

23 minutes ago, Doak said:

Daniel 11:40 - “In the time of the end the king of the south will engage with him in a pushing, and against him the king of the north will storm with chariots and horsemen and many ships; and he will enter into the lands and sweep through like a flood."

 

Does this text indicate that there will be a Third World War? He says that the King of the North (Russia and allies) will attack the King of the South (United States and United Kingdom) with chariots, horsemen and many ships. It hasn't happened yet, so is it proof that it will?

This might be useful for you:

From Watchtower May 2020 Study Article 

 

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2020/Who-Is-the-King-of-the-North-Today/

Who Is “the King of the North” Today?

 

 

THE KING OF THE NORTH AND THE KING OF THE SOUTH CONTINUE PUSHING

5. What time period is described at Daniel 11:40-43, and what happens during that time?

 

⁵ Read Daniel 11:40-43. This part of the prophecy provides an overview of the time of the end. The passage highlights the rivalry between the king of the north and the king of the south. As foretold by Daniel, in the time of the end, the king of the south would engage with the king of the north “in a pushing,” or he would “lock horns with him.”—Dan. 11:40; ftn.

 

6. What evidence is there that the two kings have been pushing each other?
 

6 The king of the north and the king of the south continue to compete for world domination. For example, consider what happened after World War II when the Soviet Union and its allies gained influence over much of Europe. The actions of the king of the north forced the king of the south to form an international military alliance, known as NATO. The king of the north continues to compete with the king of the south in an expensive arms race. The king of the north fought his rival in proxy wars and insurgencies in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. In recent years, Russia and its allies have spread their influence across the globe. They have also engaged with the king of the south in cyber warfare. The kings have accused each other of using destructive computer programs in an effort to damage their economies and political systems. And as foretold by Daniel, the king of the north continues his attack on God’s people.—Dan. 11:41.

 

Also from 
 

 

Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy!  https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/Pay-Attention-to-Daniels-Prophecy/The-Contending-Kings-Near-Their-End/

The Contending Kings Near Their End

 

 Chapter Sixteen

 

 

A PUSHING” IN THE TIME OF THE END

15. How did the king of the south engage with the king of the north in “a pushing”?

15 “In the time of the end the king of the south will  engage with him in a pushing,” the angel told Daniel. (Daniel 11:40a) Has the king of the south ‘pushed’ the king of the north during “the time of the end”? (Daniel 12:4, 9) Yes, indeed. After the first world war, the punitive peace treaty imposed upon the then king of the north—Germany—was surely “a pushing,” an incitement to retaliation. After his victory in the second world war, the king of the south targeted fearsome nuclear weapons on his rival and organized against him a powerful military alliance, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Concerning NATO’s function, a British historian says: “It was the prime instrument for the ‘containment’ of the USSR, which was now perceived as the principal threat to European peace. Its mission lasted for 40 years, and was carried out with indisputable success.” As the years of the Cold War went by, the “pushing” by the king of the south included high-tech espionage as well as diplomatic and military offensives.

16. How did the king of the north react to the pushing by the king of the south?

16 How did the king of the north react? “Against him the king of the north will storm with chariots and with horsemen and with many ships; and he will certainly enter into the lands and flood over and pass through.” (Daniel 11:40b) The history of the last days has featured the expansionism of the king of the north. During the second world war, the Nazi “king” flooded over his borders into the surrounding lands. At the end of that war, the successor “king” built a powerful empire. During the Cold War, the king of the north fought his rival in proxy wars and insurgencies in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. He persecuted genuine Christians, hindering—but by no means stopping—their activity. And his military and  political offensives brought a number of lands under his control. This is exactly what the angel had prophesied: “He will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration [the spiritual estate of Jehovah’s people], and there will be many lands that will be made to stumble.”—Daniel 11:41a.

 

[Sofia]

Ukraine wants peace, but for its restoration we need support - President's address to the members of the International Organization of La Francophonie

 

"

The Ukrainian peace formula is very clear, and each of its points has been thoroughly worked out.

Radiation and nuclear safety. Food security. Energy security. Release of all prisoners and deportees. Implementation of the UN Charter and restoration of the territorial integrity of Ukraine and the world order. Withdrawal of Russian troops and cessation of hostilities. Restoring justice. Countering ecocide. Prevention of escalation. Fixing the end of the war.

Each of these points are specific decisions, what needs to be done for security. Russian aggression will not simply stop – stability and predictability will be restored for everyone in the world. That is why our formula for peace is a formula for peace for the world.

And I suggest to all leaders, to all conscientious countries, to choose the element of the peace formula that you can help us implement.

Peace in Ukraine is peace for you too.

we must stop Russian aggression.

I always say this: the return of peace is possible! But it is possible when everyone in the world understands that no one in the world deserves a single day of terror"

source:

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/ukrayina-bazhaye-miru-ale-dlya-jogo-vidnovlennya-mi-potrebuy-79297?fbclid=IwAR1-iQvK2spMFmvZxkERqtecnD9SRmYz-ryLP0424R1NWUJXlyyFf1mhtT0

Edited November 21, 2022 by Sofia

[➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone]

Satan exposed!
Russia Shares Detailed Images Of Its Heavyweight ICBM Dubbed As One Of World’s Deadliest Missiles
By Ashish Dangwal- November 22, 2022

The R-36M2 intercontinental ballistic missile’s payload bus, which contains the weapon’s nuclear warheads, has been made public by Russian state media outlets for the first time.

This missile, also referred to as the SS-18 Mod 5 Satan in the West, contains one of the heaviest payloads designed for an ICBM, making it one of the world’s most dangerous missiles.

https://eurasiantimes.com/satan-unzipped-russia-shares-detailed-images-icbm/
Dan 11:16b
Old (Downunder) Tone
 

Edited November 24, 2022 by ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone

[Sofia]

4 hours ago, ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone said:

Satan exposed!
Russia Shares Detailed Images Of Its Heavyweight ICBM Dubbed As One Of World’s Deadliest Missiles
By Ashish Dangwal- November 22, 2022

The R-36M2 intercontinental ballistic missile’s payload bus, which contains the weapon’s nuclear warheads, has been made public by Russian state media outlets for the first time.

This missile, also referred to as the SS-18 Mod 5 Satan in the West, contains one of the heaviest payloads designed for an ICBM, making it one of the world’s most dangerous missiles.

https://eurasiantimes.com/satan-unzipped-russia-shares-detailed-images-icbm/
Dan 11:16b
Old (Downunder) Tone
 

All this is demon´s inspired for sure. Correct name given.

[Sheep]

8 hours ago, ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone said:

Satan exposed!
Russia Shares Detailed Images Of Its Heavyweight ICBM Dubbed As One Of World’s Deadliest Missiles

That's Russian sabre-rattling for you! Just to let the world know that they are more deadly than any other nation that might think of attacking them. But of course, there is no Satan that is as powerful as our God! Russia will be held accountable for its threats.

[Sheep]

Putin’s supporters call for the liquidation of Ukraine as ‘genocidal rhetoric’ swells

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/25/putins-supporters-call-for-the-extermination-of-ukraine.html?recirc=taboolainternal

 

Quote

Well-known commentators, ranging from military bloggers and journalists to politicians and officials, belonging to a nationalist faction in Russian politics have repeatedly called for Russia to adopt a more merciless approach to Ukraine, with some promoting the use of nuclear weapons and others advocating its complete annihilation.

[Exter]

6 hours ago, Sheep said:

Putin’s supporters call for the liquidation of Ukraine as ‘genocidal rhetoric’ swells

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/25/putins-supporters-call-for-the-extermination-of-ukraine.html?recirc=taboolainternal

 

Be patient, dear brothers. Jehovah's punishment will reach them soon!

[hatcheckgirl]

Unfortunately, with Russia’s airfields and other infrastructure attacked in the last few days, it will mean an escalation of the war. 
 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-06/russia-airfield-struck-governor-blames-ukraine/101741170

[New World Explorer]

6 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Unfortunately, with Russia’s airfields and other infrastructure attacked in the last few days, it will mean an escalation of the war. 
 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-06/russia-airfield-struck-governor-blames-ukraine/101741170

There is not much left for Russia to escalate with… 

Russian military has “issues” that cannot be easily solved. 
Hope this conflict ends without nightmares of chemical or nuclear weapons. 

[hatcheckgirl]

I’ve been thinking of the recent GB advice to move if you can out of conflicts, and for us to be willing to help displaced ones resettle. I know this is such a volatile war, only Jehovah can help them 🌹

[Sofia]

2 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

I’ve been thinking of the recent GB advice to move if you can out of conflicts, and for us to be willing to help displaced ones resettle. I know this is such a volatile war, only Jehovah can help them 🌹

My thoughts exactly sis

[hatcheckgirl]

Ukraine, with this move, is showing itself bolder in attacking deep into Russia. Those airbases are well within Russia, and have highlighted Russia’s poor defence of nuclear weapons air infrastructure. It has incensed ones within Russia who egg on the military to do more. Madness will descend as both sides are desperate. The poor people caught there. It’s only Jehovah who keeps them going, miraculously and by his power. 

[Doug]

22 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Ukraine, with this move, is showing itself bolder in attacking deep into Russia. Those airbases are well within Russia, and have highlighted Russia’s poor defence of nuclear weapons air infrastructure. 

 

One report said the U.S. supplied HIMARS rocket launchers had been "modified" so as to lower their range.  The U.S. apparently was trying to avoid a brazen assault far into Russia.

But the Dyagilevo and Engels airfields are actually just as deep inside Russia as Moscow.

[Michał]

Just sad

[trottigy]

Just awful. I will pray for the Kingdom and our heavenly Father to do what He can.

[CHecker]

Putin continues to be diabolical, can you imagine poisoning people with a substance that kills its victims but also hangs around, doesn't degrade, so it kills anyone who later gets near it. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-using-poison-against-ukrainian-troops-that-leaves-victims-drowning-and-frothing-at-the-mouth/ar-AA15C1DG?li=BBnbfcL

[Lee49]

19 minutes ago, bagwell1987 said:

can you imagine poisoning people with a substance that kills its victims but also hangs around,

“It stays in the area for years and years. It just hangs around, it breaks down very slowly and you don’t know where it is, it’s clear, it’s colorless, it’s odorless, and unless you’re right on top of it you could be fine,”

 

Sounds like Covid!    

[New World Explorer]

1 hour ago, bagwell1987 said:

Putin continues to be diabolical, can you imagine poisoning people with a substance that kills its victims but also hangs around, doesn't degrade, so it kills anyone who later gets near it. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-using-poison-against-ukrainian-troops-that-leaves-victims-drowning-and-frothing-at-the-mouth/ar-AA15C1DG?li=BBnbfcL

The article is bit unclear (does not present prove that the poison was used on Ukrainian troops. Instead it says: That Putin was advised to use it. 
And again … this is what the media says …hmmm 

 

Regardless this horrible war is full of atrocities already, hope it will finish soon, but somehow I feel that it will drag on for a while. 
Like you said this war is no doubt diabolical in a fullest sense. 

 

[GeordieGirl]

Novichok was the nerve agent that was used on that Russian politician, isn't it? The one who's in prison in Russia now. 

[Korotkiy]

Hi,

 

I want to share some information about the situation in Ukraine.

Since 10 october there was 5 massive missigle attacks on Electric power supplies, every of them potencially could take Ukraine to absolute lockdown, that but:

 

1. Ukraine electric network has been build in USSR taking in mind potential nuclear attacks so has extra redundancy.

 

2.Ukraine goverment wait for attack to electrical facilities from beginning of war and made some preparations, so first 2 attacks were quickly repaired from reserves made during war.

 

3. Russian missigle arsenal significantly decreases as most high-accurate rockets are already out, production is very limited as depends from banned by sanctions components (e.g. Calibr - max 15 rokets/months, at fact - 5). Many of Soviet rockets are not accuracy and old, not making anymore, and as has keeped on storage 20-30 years sometimes explodes on start. Last attack was a "coctail" from many different rockets - this shows that thay take all that left. This not means that they will not make attacks - but that attack will actually be more rarely.

 

4. Ukraine`s Anti-weapon dependency very increased effectivity. Last attacks have only less 10% hits. When Patriots will  been got I think Kiev will be covered.

 

About situation with brothers:

Different regions has different defeats. 5-millions Kiev have serious situation when electricity can be avaliable about 4-6 hours per day. Sometimes 24 hours and more lockdowns. Sad situation is that mobile signal usually lost after 6-12 hours. But in general sitizens have many goverment points with heat water and electricity.

 

In other regions situation have be better. In Zhitomir 120 km west from Kiev, where I live, we have sometimes 2-6 electric down, of course in day of attacks sometiones 24. But we maybe 1-2 times during war faced with situation when our zoom meeting  have problem because of no electric of most publishers (mobile internet works)

Meanwhile we preparing our KH for live meetings (shelter existance nearby requirement mandatory but we found ways)

Also we already beginning Pioneer school in KH next week with personal presence 

 

Other regions have more problems. In West regions sometimes electricity is 2 hours a day, and randomly. So brothers sometimes cannot have a meetings in Zoom and meet by small groups in private houses. Schools moved to spring performing in KHs.

 

In regions which are close to war line, situation buch bad, as Russions hits not only electricity by rockets, but covering squares by artillery, short-range cheap but dead rockets etc.

 

But in general we are not lose joy. Already get used for some thing. Many people remembered same situations with electricity in 90-th, when USSR collapsed. As people in general have no panic, so Jehowah people all the more so.

 

 

[hatcheckgirl]

Thank you very much my brother, for updating us. Our prayers for your safety and resilience from all of us watching on. May Jehovah continue to strengthen you all, and much love to you all 💗❤️🌹💕

”Just a little while longer…” Ps 37:10,11