2024 Governing Body Update #3

[DancesWithWife]

2 hours ago, Kwabena said:

Is it a purely religious think or a cultural thing?

The wearing of a yarmulke or kippah started with the Talmud, not the Torah. The Talmud is a record of the rabbinic debates in the 2nd-5th century on the teachings of the Torah, both trying to understand how they apply and seeking answers for the situations they themselves were encountering. 

 

Not all Jews wear a kippah. When visiting a Jewish synagogue it's considered polite to wear one if you are a male. Since most of us will not be going to a synagogue we can eliminate that option. That leaves us to the Jews who still consider themselves under the Law. Jesus fulfilled the Law, so we are no longer under Law. 

[Mike047]

Useful brief exposition, Gregg, thankyou

[Broseph]

On 5/4/2024 at 1:09 PM, Mike047 said:

No pun intended on the word 'skirt'

If we skirt around the edges we could become slack in our dress.

[Brazilian2024]

When will the update next?

[TheKid23]

1 hour ago, Brazilian2024 said:

When will the update next?

Soon I hope. With all the recent adjustments I wonder what’ll come next! 

[pnutts]

A beard nor mustache works for me. 40 years ago I had a blonde mustache, but hated it getting frozen when 40 below.

Now I get a rash at corners of my mouth and on chin if I try to grow anything for more than 3 days.👨‍🦰👴

Edited May 26 by pnutts

[EX-RedRob]

9 hours ago, TheKid23 said:

Soon I hope. With all the recent adjustments I wonder what’ll come next! 

I think that we may see reduction in meetings.  Maybe no more midweek, or only every second week.  

Edited May 27 by trottigy

[TJ86]

36 minutes ago, RedRob said:

I think that we may see reduction in meetings.  Maybe no more midweek, or only every second week. 

I wouldn’t want the number of meetings to decrease. It’s our boost of enthusiasm.

[Dustparticle]

3 hours ago, Brazilian2024 said:

When will the update next?

 Probably another 2 or 3 weeks.

[Dolce vita]

1 minute ago, TJ86 said:

I wouldn’t want the number of meetings to decrease. It’s our boost of enthusiasm.

🥺Nor would I want to... unless it becomes difficult, given the growing insecurity, to leave the Kingdom Hall late at night, especially in large cities where public transportation is available.

[Dolce vita]

3 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

 Probablement encore 2 ou 3 semaines.

I believe the last one was posted on May 3rd. I will say June 14 or the Friday after.

[truce]

2 minutes ago, RedRob said:

As a parent, I would appreciate it. 

Appreciate the reduction in meetings, you mean? I too would prefer a midweek meeting held only on zoom for just about an hour or an hour and 15 minutes. Maybe just a consideration of the Treasures part, Living As Christians and the CBS. The student demonstrations part can be coordinated at meetings for field service or on the weekend. 

Edited May 26 by truce

[Dages]

But seriously, I'd love some news and videos about the recent floods in Brazil 

Edited May 27 by trottigy

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, Dages said:

videos

I have videos

but Portuguese only 

[trottigy]

As all of this is just speculation, we need to wait for the actual update.

 

Let's leave it to that, eh.

[Landon1285]

31 minutes ago, trottigy said:

As all of this is just speculation, we need to wait for the actual update.

 

Let's leave it to that, eh.

When the gap between those taking the lead making changes and the reason behind them is large or unclear to us it becomes very tempting to want to bridge that gap. Therefore any attempt to discover the reasoning behind the change including the gap itself can come across largely conspiritorial. You can start to gamble doctrinally with the downside being much worse than the upside. The upside if correct is mostly positive-it puts you ahead of others (which is a bit lonely). If wrong this can lead one from initially feeling empowered to becoming cynical. This can cause division between close friends who may start to consider each other as enemies. How good it is to heed the Bible's advice to be patient - James 5:8.

[trottigy]

I put a hold on this topic for a few minutes ...

 

Our fourm policy says this at Section D - 6:

 

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6) Freedom of Speech: The above principles definitely do not mean that matters of conscience and speculative questions cannot be discussed. The Watchtower of May 1, 2000 gives the following balanced perspective:

 

What followed was a quote form that article specific to not being dogmatic about what is to come in the New World. The moderators do try and watch the conversations and keep them from going into "dogmatic" territory AND we appreciate all of you who help us do the same!

 

BUT.. That article has other points we also want to follow - this is from paragraph 11 & 12:

 

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11 Consider yet another possible source of harmful ideas. While not intending to teach falsehoods, a dedicated Christian can develop the habit of speaking thoughtlessly. (Proverbs 12:18) Because of our imperfect nature, all of us will at times transgress with our tongue. (Proverbs 10:19; James 3:8) Evidently, in the apostle Paul’s day, there were some in the congregation who failed to control their tongue and got involved in quibbling debates about words. (1 Timothy 2:8) There were others who thought too much of their own opinions and even went so far as to challenge the authority of Paul. (2 Corinthians 10:10-12) Such a spirit resulted in needless conflicts.

 

12 Sometimes these disagreements escalated into “violent disputes about trifles,” disrupting the peace of the congregation. (1 Timothy 6:5; Galatians 5:15) Of those who caused these arguments, Paul wrote: “If any man teaches other doctrine and does not assent to healthful words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, nor to the teaching that accords with godly devotion, he is puffed up with pride, not understanding anything, but being mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words. From these things spring envy, strife, abusive speeches, wicked suspicions.”—1 Timothy 6:3, 4.

 

The key point here is, "some in the congregation who failed to control their tongue and got involved in quibbling debates about words. (1 Timothy 2:8)".

 

I hid all the posts where some have discussed one of those "words". 

 

Please, let's not continue that line of ideas. IF the slave is to make a change, it is best to wait on them to make it and NOT run ahead!. AND if they don't, then we follow THEIR lead not our own.

 

Thank you for understanding.

Edited May 27 by trottigy

[gusdn1]

13 minutes ago, trottigy said:

I put a hold on this topic for a few minutes ...

 

Our fourm policy says this at Section D - 6:

 

 

What followed was a quote form that article specific to not being dogmatic about what is to come in the New World. The moderators do try and watch the conversations and keep them from going into "dogmatic" territory AND we appreciate all of you who help us do the same!

 

BUT.. That article has other points we also want to follow - this is from paragraph 11 & 12:

 

 

The key point here is, "some in the congregation who failed to control their tongue and got involved in quibbling debates about words. (1 Timothy 2:8)".

 

I hid all the posts where some have discussed one of those "words". 

 

Please, let's not continue that line of ideas. IF the slave is to make a change, it is best to wait on them to make it and NOT run ahead!. AND if they don't, then we follow THEIR lead not our own.

 

Thank you for understanding.

 

Thank you so much brother for keeping the conversation properly moderated.

[Lance]

Please note: RedRob was Banned with cause...if you are wondering why some of your posts and replies are missing.. we need to keep this community safe.. the" pattern of healthful words" is a pattern which we all recognize and cherish....

Edited May 27 by Lance

[Sweet Tooth]

3 hours ago, trottigy said:

Consider yet another possible source of harmful ideas. While not intending to teach falsehoods, a dedicated Christian can develop the habit of speaking thoughtlessly. (Proverbs 12:18) Because of our imperfect nature, all of us will at times transgress with our tongue.

Thank you for this timely reminder. 🙂

[trottigy]

10 hours ago, trottigy said:

I put a hold on this topic for a few minutes .

 

We are back open.

 

Enjoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, trottigy said:

 

 

[TheKid23]

2 hours ago, trottigy said:

 

We are back open.

 

Enjoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you all for keeping this community safe 🤗

[LeolaRootStew]

That guy was a red flag from the start - I'm glad you guys are on top of things. 💜

 

[gusdn1]

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

That guy was a red flag from the start - I'm glad you guys are on top of things. 💜

 

 

Honestly, I thought I was the only one feeling it right from the start. That's why I just observed and didn't say anything. And patiently waited for someone to properly deal with this.  😬

Edited May 27 by gusdn1

[Lance]

We really do appreciate everyone’s attentiveness… we try not to be too nitpicky … since we have many who use google translate and theocratic terms don’t always come out in an appropriate way, also we have varying degrees of spiritual maturity since our minimum requirement is to be a publisher of the good news in their congregation. That being said a skunk always has a certain look and smell… it is often not new ones that have stylized  colouring and or an odoriferous bouquet .🙊🙈🙉

Edited May 28 by Lance