Bible Shortage At Bethel?

[Qapla]

I talked to Brother I know at Wallkill and asked him about the Bible Shortage and he assured me that the Bibles are just as tall as they have always been ...

[Lance]

Groan.......... Yes you are a card .. You should be dealt with .. Double groan

[Brother_Bliss]

Well... after the District Convention today I had dinner with some of the other attendants and their families, one being an elder, and this came up. One brother placed an "order" for a Bible nearly a year ago and it still hasn't been fulfilled.

 

The elder said that he "thinks" that a new Bible will be released at the annual meeting this year. Of course, whether he has real insider information or is a public peruser of this JWTalk forum I do not know.

 

I still cannot fathom a "new" Bible - the NWT is nearly perfect in all respects. The only thing they could do to improve it is not in it's translation (okay, maybe bring up to date some of the outdated language), but in it's durability, footnotes, appendixes, etc.

[Margaret]

I always liked the bibles that had the books marked with indents on the side

Edited August 5, 2013 by I_want_to

[SUNRAY]

Has anyone noticed the Bible used by the brother on JW.org under "Bible Questions Answered"?

 

http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/

  

And on the cover of the October WT.

yummy!!!...I smell cookies baking in the oven...THEY HAVE SPRINKLES! ~ I can't wander too far!! They are flexible too!!!

[Cool Cat]

I still cannot fathom a "new" Bible - the NWT is nearly perfect in all respects. The only thing they could do to improve it is not in it's translation (okay, maybe bring up to date some of the outdated language), but in it's durability, footnotes, appendixes, etc.

 

I agree we don't need any drastic changes in translation, but extra durability would be great. I like the look of the grey leather, stitched, sprinkled edged bible on the October watchtower. We use our bibles all the time, in the ministry, at the meetings, in personal study, yet they are so flimsy and pages fall out. I am sure Jehovah's organization will do something about this!

[bohemian]

I don't agree with the thought that the NWT is perfect and we don't need any changes.  It is very adequate, but if the translation Committee have found through research that some areas could be more accurate, or an alternative rendering brings out the original language thought better then we would be getting ever closer to what Jehovah inspired to be written.  That surely is a good thing.

 

Otherwise we would still be using the ASV, or the 1961 one volume NWT.  Yes we are familiar with the turns of phrase in the NWT we use, but some phraseology is stilted and unnatural as speech.  It may be very accurate, but its accuracy can get in the way of understanding at times.  The reference Bible is great for study, but a plainer English style would perhaps be better suited to the ministry in the 21st Century.

[Áine]

I wish the song books had better durability they fall to pieces very easily, even if they are covered

[bohemian]

Download it to a tablet, Annie!      

[Dages]

A good way to introduce a new translation would be through the website first.

[blue-jay]

The reference Bible is great for study, but a plainer English style would perhaps be better suited to the ministry in the 21st Century.

That would be awesome. That's the first suggestion that gets me excited about a new bible!

[Jordan]

A good way to introduce a new translation would be through the website first.

 

I'm confused as to why there would be a need for all this secrecy - Almost everyone I talk to thinks something is up in that area because so many haven't seen a new bible in a very long time, society has never been this late, how much does it take to get new glue, things are being hush hushed at the branch offices etc...

I don't think anyone that's paying attention will be surprised by its delivery now (should that take place). But it will be cool anyway to finally get my bible that I ordered 7 months ago. ha.

[Julsey]

I still cannot fathom a "new" Bible - the NWT is nearly perfect in all respects. The only thing they could do to improve it is not in it's translation (okay, maybe bring up to date some of the outdated language), but in it's durability, footnotes, appendixes, etc.

 

I think I may have said this earlier (if so, please forgive me), but there is one place I always thought could use a revision, to wit:

 

(Luke 14:26) ²⁶ “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own soul, he cannot be my disciple. . .

 

I think we have heard that, in this instance, 'hate' comes from a verb meaning 'to love less.'  It made me wonder why it wasn't translated that way, since hate is a very strong word in English.  Does that make sense?

[Cool Cat]

I think I may have said this earlier (if so, please forgive me), but there is one place I always thought could use a revision, to wit:

 

(Luke 14:26) ²⁶ “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own soul, he cannot be my disciple. . .

 

I think we have heard that, in this instance, 'hate' comes from a verb meaning 'to love less.'  It made me wonder why it wasn't translated that way, since hate is a very strong word in English.  Does that make sense?

 

Absolutely, I have always said that if anything was to be changed then it would be that verse!!!!!!!  It is always one that needs explaining ie:- "Hate" = "Love less"

 

Especially as the translation committee seemed to prefer bringing out the true meaning of Greek nuances. For instance in Matthew 5:3 “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.

 

The translation committee brought out the true meaning of the Greek term "Blessed are the poor in spirit".

 

If they were in the game of bringing out the real meaning of that verse to aid learning then why did they not do that for Luke 14:26?

 

I have always thought that!!

[Sheep]

I think I may have said this earlier (if so, please forgive me), but there is one place I always thought could use a revision, to wit:

 

(Luke 14:26) ²⁶ “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own soul, he cannot be my disciple. . .

 

I think we have heard that, in this instance, 'hate' comes from a verb meaning 'to love less.'  It made me wonder why it wasn't translated that way, since hate is a very strong word in English.  Does that make sense?

 

There is another way to understand that. This is the way it was explained once, although I can't figure out where:

 

Hatred, by comparison. In other words, our love for father and mother, wife, children, brothers and sisters, etc, should be hatred when compared to the love we have for Jehovah.

[Áine]

Download it to a tablet, Annie!

I don't have a tablet

[Jack Garlin]

I've been to the 2013 Convention. And there's no mention of a new translation.

But it would be great if there was. And it would be called

"Gods Word The Bible" after all that's what it is!

[Dages]

Our translation is already excellent. No need to change it. ;-)

[cricket246]

Maybe the reason they keep this style of wording is because we understand it and the world doesn't. Because if the world understood it, then they would say they didn't need our help as much. lol

[pnutts]

The Japan branch is now helping with bible printing. I have heard that the US branch is having trouble with the covers coming off the bibles. We will eventially find out the reasons. Some have suggested that many congregations have too much stock.

[stuagu]

hi bro. pnutts

sounds logical but its the length of time this is takin...imho it must be something else... we will all know soon enough. :-)

stuagu

[Yoda]

In Our Congegatio we are wating morethan six months Butth they are the Study Bible with references in Dutch...

[jayrtom]

admittedly there are translations that sound more "natural" than ours but let us not forget that the objective of nwt is to be as literal as possible. Sometimes, in order to aproach the wording of the verse to our modern way of writing, some translations input an interpretation into it. from Reasoning book:

What kind of translation is this? For one thing, it is an accurate, largely literal translation from the original languages. It is not a loose paraphrase, in which the translators leave out details that they consider unimportant and add ideas that they believe will be helpful. As an aid to students, a number of editions provide extensive footnotes showing variant readings where expressions can legitimately be rendered in more than one way, also a listing of the specific ancient manuscripts on which certain renderings are based.

Anyway, this is not a closed translation. if the translation committee sees the need to update again it will be updated

The 1984 revision of the New World Translation benefited from updating in harmony with the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia of 1977.

Edited August 8, 2013 by jayrtom

[Dustparticle]

Our translation is already excellent. No need to change it. ;-)

  NWT is an excellent translation, yet bible translations has an open door for changing.

[SUNRAY]

Did anyone see the picture on page 19 of the September 15 the Watchtower?...looks like our reference Bible...hard cover...