Covid-19 Vaccine Research, Development, Ingredients and Reactions

[M.J.]

Does your local clinic or hospital have any statistics about what percentage of people reported problems with vaccine?

[vern]

Why....

 

The virus immunization is better.

 

Some vaccine scientist say your body takes a 3d snap shot of the virus and can recognize all its parts.

 

No need for vaccine after getting it and beating it.

 

He said the varients are .3% .  and your body could probly easily beat a 30% varient.... Only reason you would get a true vaccine is to try and get immunized before getting it.

 

You got it.... No reason to take it.

 

Those that got the sarz covid 17 years ago are all immunized for covid 19....

 

You shouldn.t need it.

 

These vaccines don.t give immunization... They market them as lower symptoms therapies.

 

In the usa they are only experemental status...

 

 

I hope you beat the odds.

 

 

 

 

Sorry if this offends anyone.. But from my perspective.... If i truely thought it can harm.... Wouldn.t it be a problem if i didn.t speak up?

[Shawnster]

2 hours ago, vern said:

I hope you beat the odds.

Aren't the odds on favor of the vaccine working? 

[New World Explorer]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56733715

Covid-19: US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine

[Loopy]

40 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56733715

Covid-19: US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine

I saw this also this morning. 😳

[Bard]

Knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns

COVID-19 VACCINES: Breakthrough Approach Or Unanticipated Health Risk? – Dr. Rath Health Foundation (dr-rath-foundation.org)

[Sofia]

56 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56733715

Covid-19: US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine

This was long expected 

how come up with a good coronavirus vaccine without serious  side effects ?

it has been tryed for decades...

i warned all my known friends and explained why

[trottigy]

I too saw the pause in the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. Even though the ratio is extremly low in getting blood clots (1 in 1 Million) - they are being super cautious. That's good, eh.

 

Quote

 Federal health agencies on Tuesday called for an immediate pause in use of Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose coronavirus vaccine after six recipients in the United States developed a rare disorder involving blood clots within about two weeks of vaccination.

 

All six recipients were women between the ages of 18 and 48. One woman died and a second woman in Nebraska has been hospitalized in critical condition.

 

Nearly seven million people in the United States have received Johnson & Johnson shots so far, and roughly nine million more doses have been shipped out to the states, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/johnson-johnson-vaccine-blood-clots-fda-cdc.html

Edited April 13, 2021 by trottigy

[sunshine]

13 hours ago, vern said:

 

 

Sorry if this offends anyone.. But from my perspective.... If i truely thought it can harm.... Wouldn.t it be a problem if i didn.t speak up?

   

I have grappled wth this question as I truly Believe the reports of thousands  (not a few dozen) THOUSANDS of people dying horribly following taking thèse vaccines, but I do not believe ANYONE is responsible for the medical choices of another if they are adults of sound mind. So no, speaking out is in my opinion my moral responsibility.

[.Ivan.]

Yesterday afternoon they shot me with Astra zenec, I immediately fell asleep at home and felt like I was drunk and today I can't get out of bed. My head, legs, arms, bones hurt me so much that I have the virus. I stayed home. Reportedly passes in a day - two.

[New World Explorer]

2 hours ago, .Ivan. said:

Yesterday afternoon they shot me with Astra zenec, I immediately fell asleep at home and felt like I was drunk and today I can't get out of bed. My head, legs, arms, bones hurt me so much that I have the virus. I stayed home. Reportedly passes in a day - two.
 

My friend had the same reaction, pretty normal , he is fully functional now. Nothing to worry. 

[zoebarry]

CDC reports 5,800 Covid infections in fully vaccinated people

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/health/breakthrough-infections-covid-vaccines-cdc/index.html

 

74 people died

 

 

 

[Qapla]

Interesting ... but, so is this:

 

• Seat belts fail with startling regularity in motor vehicle crashes and lead to severe injury and even death. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reports that roughly 3 million people each year suffer injuries and 40,000 people die because of seat belts that fail during crashes
• Seat belts dramatically reduce risk of death and serious injury. Among drivers and front-seat passengers, seat belts reduce the risk of death by 45%, and cut the risk of serious injury by 50%
• Wearing a seat belt is the most effective way to prevent death and serious injury in a crash.

 

So, while seatbelts do not prevent all automobile accident deaths - they do save lives. The same can be said of the C-19 vaccine(s) - although some vaccinated people have died or suffered C-19, the number of deaths have surely gone down since the vaccine programs have started to have an impact.

 

That said, These two reminders in the April Announcements should have an impact on how and what we say on the subject of C-19:

• Personal Decisions During the Pandemic: In some parts of the world, governments have begun to make COVID-19 vaccines available to the public. Whether someone chooses to be vaccinated is a personal decision. (Gal. 6:5) Thus, it would be loving to respect the personal decision that each individual makes based on his Bible-trained conscience, instead of pressuring someone to make the same choice that we made.
• When making decisions about personal activities such as socializing in person, traveling, and so forth, we want to be more cautious than the secular authorities and our neighbors, who are often eager to resume activities for economic  reasons.

 

[Old]

1 hour ago, zoebarry said:

CDC reports 5,800 Covid infections in fully vaccinated people

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/health/breakthrough-infections-covid-vaccines-cdc/index.html

 

74 people died

 

 

 

What percentage is that in relation to the number that have been vaccinated?

My calculator can't hand such giant differences in calculations. Will some one please help.

[rocket]

6 minutes ago, Old said:

What percentage is that in relation to the number that have been vaccinated?

My calculator can't hand such giant differences in calculations. Will some one please help.

77,000,000 vaccinated; 5,800 breakthrough cases, 74 deaths

less than 1 in a million die as a breakthrough case. Never the less it is still unnerving !!!

Edited April 15, 2021 by rocket

[sunshine]

On 4/14/2021 at 7:45 AM, .Ivan. said:

Yesterday afternoon they shot me with Astra zenec, I immediately fell asleep at home and felt like I was drunk and today I can't get out of bed. My head, legs, arms, bones hurt me so much that I have the virus. I stayed home. Reportedly passes in a day - two.
 

Please keep us posted and get yourself to a doctor if you are worried (sustained headaches, bleeding etc)

[califlorican]

2 hours ago, rocket said:

77,000,000 vaccinated; 5,800 breakthrough cases, 74 deaths

less than 1 in a million die as a breakthrough case. Never the less it is still unnerving !!!

Can I ask what is unnerving about it? I don’t think that anyone thought that getting vaccinated was 100% effective for everyone. 
 

The number of non-vaccinated individuals being hospitalized and dying continue to be at much higher percentages   

[.Ivan.]

Day two after shot i have headache and mild fever, 37.5 C. Feeling dazed and tired.. no alergic reaction on skin no more.

[califlorican]

On 4/13/2021 at 12:14 PM, sunshine said:

   

I have grappled wth this question as I truly Believe the reports of thousands  (not a few dozen) THOUSANDS of people dying horribly following taking thèse vaccines, but I do not believe ANYONE is responsible for the medical choices of another if they are adults of sound mind. So no, speaking out is in my opinion my moral responsibility.

I personally believe that if they’re already pausing vaccinations over a small number of blood clots, they would do the same if thousands of people were dying as a result of being vaccinated.
 

If we think about it, the odds of a few thousand people dying sometime after vaccination after 825 million doses have been given out worldwide in a short time is pretty high. But is there any evidence yet that it’s directly caused by the vaccines? I’m not sure about that. 

Edited April 15, 2021 by califlorican

[Qapla]

Just for some perspective ...

 

In the past few years there have been some incidents where e coli was discovered on lettuce. Only a few people were affected, sometimes only 5 or 6, and only one variety of lettuce - but, the stores pulled ALL types of lettuce from ALL store shelves 

 

Knee-jerk reactions are not that uncommon - especially when the adage of "better safe than sorry" seems like the right thing to do.

 

It should not surprise us that a particular vaccine is paused until they can determine if the "problem" is confined to a particular batch/run or was mishandled by the people administering it (it has a shelf-life for a reason) ... they are being "better safe that sorry" - although many conspiracy theory enthusiasts would rather jump to the conclusion that they are hiding "much larger numbers" even though there is no proof of that.

 

What we should keep in mind is that this whole system is on the way out and Jehovah will take care of what ails mankind. Only HE has the solution.

Edited April 15, 2021 by Qapla

[rocket]

7 hours ago, califlorican said:

Can I ask what is unnerving about it? I don’t think that anyone thought that getting vaccinated was 100% effective for everyone. 
 

The number of non-vaccinated individuals being hospitalized and dying continue to be at much higher percentages   

I agree that it was never said to be 100% safe but at the same time it is unnerving when people die from something that ones hoped would give one a better chance of living. Even with a few dying from Breakthrough, it is still better than thousands more dying without the vaccine.

[trottigy]

I noticed that even though cases are going up deaths are still on there way down. This has to be in part due to the vaccine, eh?

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

[carlos]

3 hours ago, trottigy said:

I noticed that even though cases are going up deaths are still on there way down. This has to be in part due to the vaccine, eh?

That the vaccine is efficient is undeniable. In the south of Spain there is a small British enclave named Gibraltar. Last month it reached 80 percent of its population vaccinated. Since 31 March no one has died of covid there and the only new cases detected are of visitors, not inhabitants. Masks are no longer compulsory and all business are open and people doing their normal life.

 

In Spain, the virus has been a slaughter in homes for the elderly. In some of them all of the residents died. In many others there were over 150 victims. Last month all the residents in these homes received their second dose. The number of cases has fallen by 98 percent.

 

Taking a vaccine or not is a personal choice, but a choice that must be based on information and facts, not rumors and lies.

Edited April 15, 2021 by carlos

[Allabord4Jah]

Just to be on the safe side, a sister I know had to get the shot because her employers said so.  So she go the JJ shot.  She is taking baby aspirin to help thin her blood.  She told me that over 6.1 million people got the JJ shot, and only a few people got sick after the 2nd shot (not on same day of shot) but later maybe a month or two.  She said that it's mostly women, who maybe taking hormone's.   She's okay, no problems so far.   

[Qapla]

11 hours ago, Allabord4Jah said:

over 6.1 million people got the JJ shot, and only a few people got sick after the 2nd shot (not on same day of shot) but later maybe a month or two.

 

With the J&J vaccine there is no "second shot" - it is a single dose vaccine.