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Wait, the HLC actually said to do that in the past? I thought it was a joke about the Ashya King case

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🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ I didn't even realize it was the 2024 update!

We had setup various groups in connection to our KH project. It seems that one group got some strange messages from someone claiming to be from the LDC. It turned out that a publishers phone was hacked. The group chat was closed down.

It seems like WhatsApp has been having a lot of problems recently,sometimes it is so difficult to even register a phone nos,plus the "actual" hacking of accounts,some people in my class in med school have had their accounts actually hacked,a very senior colleague also had his account actually hacked, and the hacker was trying to borrow money from me,it became immediately clear to me that it can't be my colleague.I called his other line and he informed me of the incidence.

Quite similar in our hall too. An already compromised number, hacked the number of a publishers phone. After doing so, the hacker had access to chats, and groups, e.g the congregation group chat, which was then used by the hacker to message and call other publishers in the group. When they realised that wasn't working, because of how promptly everyone was informed, they hacked the number of another publisher in attempt to carry on the chain 😳. But that too, did not work.

I totally understand your comment, and I see the logic behind the Hospital Liaison Committee's guidance in today's climate. However, before the Hospital Liaison Committee (HLC) arrangement, doctors would frequently get a court order enabling them to countermand the wishes of the parent and transfuse the child. At the present time, after the HLCs were formed, and have had many years to work with medical professionals, the attitude of the medical profession is totally different from what it was 50 years ago. That is why I said that I believe the HLC arrangement was one of the better things Jehovah's Organization has done to assist all of Jehovah's dear ones keep true to his righteous requirements. In areas where the HLC has had opportunity to work with medical professionals, things are totally different now. I studied with one individual who "made the truth his own" and progressed to be an Elder. His oldest son was born with spina bifida (a neural tube defect where the spinal column fails to close compltely during the early prgnancy) in 1968, which leads to significant complications and can make the child paralized in the lower body. This condition was not apparent befor the child was born. The brother and his wife (and related family members) all of a sudden had to become well read on treatments that could be used and still comply with Jehovah's righteous requirements. He ended up on the local HLC (as well as having many additional privilegs including temporary Bethel Service, Department Head responsibilities at Circuit Assemblies and District Conventions). His experience with his first child gave him the ability to talk with medical professionals. He and his fleshly brother were both very dear to me. I studied with both him and his younger brother. The younger brother became a Ministerial servand. The one who became a Ministerial Servant died of a massive stroke about ten years ago. The one we became an Elder died of leukemia about four years ago. His son is wheelchair bound and is now 58 and is serving as an Elder. He had another son (about two years younger than the first) who spent five yeaars at Bethel, and is now serving as an Elder. In today's environment I can understand why the HLC would not recommend running from the hospital with a child. In the environment today (particularly in the U.S.) there are usually much better ways to handle the situation. That is bacause of all of the great effort put forth by the brothers who have been working so hard for the rest of us while serving on the HLC. When I made the comment, I was NOT trying to encourage someone to take a particular course of action today. I was just relating what historically happened in this particular situation 50+ years ago. The couple even had to "do battle in court" in the city where they went. There was an attorney from Canada who had experience with these matters who came from Canada to help the U.S. attorney (both of these attorneys were brothers) during the court hearing in the city where they went. The problem was that the local doctor had gone to the court to obtain the court order without notifying the parents, so they had no opportunity to present their side of the case before the local judge make his ruling. When the couple were able to get legal representation in the city to which they went, the judge there allowed the couple to avail themselves of alternative medical treatment. There was a brother in that city who was a doctor, and he was able to treat the child using appropiate treatment, as well as providing excellent testimony before the judge at the hearing. In today's environment (especially in the U.S.) it is not likely that a judge would issue such an order if the parents had been able to present their case to the court. If I gave the impression I was suggesting someone "run from the hospital with their child" I apologize sincerely and totally. I was just attemptng to relate an experience of which I had personal knowledge to illustrate one of the tremendously good things Jehovah's Organization has done for Jehovah's dear ones to help all to endure, by loyal, and keep their faith. Thanks, Jim

Wow. Really eh

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A brother in our area was almost scammed a few months ago by someone on Whatsapp claiming to be from the Special Convention and tried to get money from him. They had a JW.org logo and knew he was attending a Special Convention as a delegate, they tried to get a code from him to confirm his hotel reservation. That was before we received the announcement about Whatsapp scams.

In my case since we're either in the same congregation or nearby congregation inform everyone of the suspected hack and start a new group with a different number. So everyone has to be reapproved to join. That's safer.

WhatsApp is making phone numbers optional, and users will be able to make their phone number hidden to everyone they message. They are replacing the phone number with a username (telegram and signal already did this a while ago). i’m not sure if it will help or hurt in the situation you just mentioned

Has anyone been in a whatsapp group that has been hacked or with unrelated members? I’m in a couple of congregation related ones for Field Service Group and Pioneers. Never ever had an issue with those from both congregations I’ve been in. In addition I am also in 2 other groups. One for Garden Care at the hall and the other a Sister’s Social group. Last week there was concerns within both groups that we could have been hacked into by unrelated persons. So I looked into both groups and noticed that with the Garden Care group Admin had entered a particular number at some stage. Turned out this was the “hacker”. Admin then removed the number and reported it to Whatsapp. However, and its a big However, the “hacker” was the innocent one. Our admin had typed in a number for one of our sisters but he got the last 3 digits wrong. Instead of 345 he typed 354. So the person who owned the number ending in 354 was innocently added to this strange group called Garden Care.😂😂😂😂Anyways turns out it was some fellow and he must have looked through the group and started messaging one of our sisters who immediately assumed he was a “hacker”. Similar thing with incorrect typing of last 3 digits happen with our Social group. Though the owner of the number on our social group must not have been too bothered because he never interacted. He probably never looks at Whatsapp. Anyways I would be interested to hear others experiences.

Friday, August 21 It is a snare for a man to cry out rashly, “Holy!” And only later to give consideration to what he vowed.—Prov. 20:25. Although courtship can be enjoyable, it is also a serious step that may lead to marriage. On their wedding day, a couple vow before Jehovah to love and respect each other for as long as they both live. Before making any vow, we should consider the matter very carefully. That is certainly true of the marriage vow. Courtship allows a couple to get to know each other and to make a good decision. Sometimes that decision is to get married; sometimes that decision is to end the courtship. If a couple break up, this does not mean that their courtship failed. Instead, the courtship served its purpose—it helped them come to a good decision. Why is it important to have the right view of courtship? When single people have the proper viewpoint, they will not date someone they have no intention of marrying. w24.05 26-27 ¶3-4

https://www.counterfire.org/article/un-at-80-toothless-ignored-and-irrelevant/ This article is from 2025 but this is how the UN is regarded at the moment. What a shock when it becomes the most powerful organisation in the world!

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Br. Manfred identified the language as Masana. "The Masana language (also called Masa or Massa) is a Chadic language spoken by roughly 200,000 to 350,000 people living in southern Chad and northern Cameroon, mostly near the Logone River and around towns like Yagoua and Bongor."

I have a cousin who is on a Hospital Liaison Committee. Today, they don't recommend running from a hospital with a child.

You already posted this one… To me it seems Joseph and Jesus have exactly the same look 🫣. Do you really believe this stuff?

We are at 1128 now.

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