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Some great points have been put forward here. We also understand that Jehovah granted these privileged ones of the 144,000 immortality at the point of their being raised to heaven. Their status, as we understand it, means that they are fully spirit creatures, since there is no aspect of a physical being about them; all of that has been cast off. When Jesus re-appeared, after his resurrection, he was no longer able to die any more, so Jehovah had made possible for him to take on flesh, temporarily, to prove his resurrection and establish the firm basis for the ransom provision. We know as Jesus himself said "with God all things are possible.” (Matt 19:26), so maybe in the fullness of time, things that seem impossible now may be looked at differently then.
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I don't think they would lose immortality by reappearing on earth, but I agree with the rest. It would also open up other questions. Like, would they be allowed to get married? Jesus said that they were as the angels, who don't marry. Would it be as inappropriate for the anointed to live as humans again as it was for the demons? Possibly. But maybe visits would be acceptable.
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For those of us with the earthly hope, it might seem a little sad especially if we are separated from a loved one who has the heavenly hope. Like brother Lance said, we will not be separated like we are today. We cannot understand the thoughts and feelings of the anointed and how they must long to be united with Jesus and their brothers. They will have the greatest privilege of being in the presence of Jehovah himself. I have a hard time fathoming what that would be like but i imagine once you have experienced the gloriousness of a close bond with Jesus and your 144,000 brothers and Jehovah himself, where else would you want to reside forever? I cannot imagine any one of them wanting to return to earth to live as a human especially after receiving the gift of immortality which shows how much trust Jehovah has shown in them. To accept such a gift and then want to return it so to speak would show a lack of gratitude.
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Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon
Michał replied to Dhanyel's topic in Secular News in the Mainstream Media
While preparing for the Watchtower study this week, I looked at a question from readers in this issue of the Watchtower (for February), and the last paragraph caught my attention here: In the meantime, what matters most is, not the timing of the future proclamation of “peace and security,” but our standing before God. We must “stay awake and keep our senses,” so that we may be fully prepared no matter how events unfold.—1 Thess. 5:6. -
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Hubi started following “The Wrong Hands – What Really Needs to Be Fixed”
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Imagine this… you look at your watch — and immediately realize: The hands are running wrong. The time just isn’t right. What would you do? Would you just adjust the hands a little… or would you think: “Maybe something is wrong with the whole watch”? A man comes to a watchmaker. He puts two hands on the table and says: “They’ve been showing the wrong time for weeks. Fix them!” The watchmaker asks: “Where is the watch?” “At home,” says the man. The watchmaker calmly replies: “Without the watch, I can’t help you.” The man gets upset: “The watch is fine! Only the hands are broken!” And angrily, he walks away. A bit strange, right? But… if we’re honest… we sometimes behave very similarly. We may notice: “Something in my life isn’t right.” Then we try… to be a little kinder, a little more patient, a little “better.” We adjust… the hands. But Jehovah looks deeper. In Jeremiah 17:9,10 it says: “The heart is more treacherous than anything else… I, Jehovah, search the heart.” That means: The real problem is often not on the outside… but on the inside. Maybe someone has tried many times to change… and realized: “I just can’t do it permanently.” Why? Because they try to correct only the behavior… but the heart remains unchanged. And this is exactly where Jehovah is so loving. He does not say: “Make yourself perfect.” He says: “Give me your heart.” Like a skilled watchmaker, he doesn’t just want the hands… but the whole “watch.” He wants to cleanse, heal, and realign our inner self. Maybe you’re thinking today: “I’ve already tried so much…” Then this might be the key: Not just working on the “hands”… but giving everything to Jehovah. Open. Honest. Completely. The next time you look at a watch… remember: It’s not enough for the hands to look good. What really matters is… that the watch works properly inside. And Jehovah… he can change your heart so that your whole life runs “right” again. If you let him.
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What do I think .. I think.😎 I’ve always appreciated how clearly the Scriptures describe the hope of the 144,000. Their home, identity, and assignment remain heavenly forever. But at the same time, Jehovah has always been able to bridge the gap between the heavenly and earthly families whenever he chooses. Nothing limits him. And whatever Jehovah arranges for eternity will leave no one, heavenly or earthly, feeling distant, deprived, or wishing for something different. I often think of how Adam spoke with Jehovah “in the breezy part of the day” (Gen. 3:8). That shows how close the heavenly and earthly families were meant to be. There’s also the precedent of angels visiting numerous Bible characters in fully human form ..Abraham, Lot, Gideon, Manoah, and others. Those were temporary materializations, not a return to human life, but they show that such interaction is completely within Jehovah’s power. And look at Jesus. Even though he is now at Jehovah’s right hand, he is deeply connected to this earth and to the people he loved …including close friends like John the Baptist. His affection didn’t disappear when he returned to heaven. So will the heavenly and earthly families be deeply connected forever? Absolutely …. more than we can ever imagine. We are one family. A scripture that really captures this is 1 Corinthians 15:28: “But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.” That’s the moment when the entire universe ..heaven and earth…. is perfectly united under Jehovah’s sovereignty. I can imagine a family reunion where every relationship is healed, every misunderstanding is gone, and every member feels completely connected, understood, and loved. Now magnify that to a cosmic universal scale. Mind blowing. As a side point, a close friend of mine Chris Tyler was of the anointed. She once told me that when the resurrection comes, she was going to ask Jehovah to be present when her daughter is raised. To me, that was a pretty good ask. .. it simply reflected the depth of love and connection that will always exist in Jehovah’s family. Just as Jehovah was involved with his sons resurrection .. a special time.
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Christian jukebox (good clean music to listen to)
Barbllm replied to Cushi's topic in Music, Songs, Albums & Concerts
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I wouldn’t be surprised, we are at already at record breaking wildfires worldwide this year comparing to any other year. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-area-burnt-by-wildfires-by-week?time=1..52&tab=line
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Hello again friends, My name is David Michael Selent, and I’ve been one of Jehovah’s Witnesses for most of my life. I was baptized on October 20, 1989, and I currently attend the Jensen Beach Congregation in Florida. I’ve been married for 10 years to my beautiful wife, Gwen, and she’s been serving as a regular pioneer for the past 10 years. We’re both so grateful to be in the truth together, and we truly love Jehovah and the worldwide brotherhood. Besides serving Jehovah, one of my biggest passions has always been music. Over time, I started writing and performing my own original songs, and eventually I formed a group called the DMS BAND—“Great Sound. Better Message.” It’s made up of close friends and fellow believers who all share the same love for Jehovah and for music. What makes the group special is that we all bring something different—different talents, different voices, and different instruments. But what unites us is our desire to create music that is clean, wholesome, and spiritually upbuilding. We write music in a wide variety of styles—Rock, Country, Blues, Jazz, Pop, Reggae, Easy Listening—because I wanted there to be something that could reach everyone. The idea really came from noticing how so much music today has great sound, but the lyrics can be negative or even harmful. I wanted to create something different—music that still sounds modern and enjoyable, but with positive, encouraging, and faith-based messages. While our music is primarily created with Jehovah’s Witnesses in mind, it’s really for anyone who wants a break from the world’s music and would rather listen to something that builds them up instead of tearing them down. Another thing that’s very important to us is giving back. With every song download, half of the profits go to support the worldwide work, which means anyone who supports the music is also helping in that way. We were also able to donate one of our original songs to the branch for possible use in an original song and video, which was a real privilege for us. At the end of the day, our main goal is simple—to serve Jehovah, share His Kingdom message, and do whatever we can to help others come to know the truth. We truly hope that if you hear our music, it encourages you and brings you joy. And if you enjoy it, feel free to share it with others. Below is a preview video of my first song GOALS! (14 Version Album) This is our full 14-version album featuring fourteen completely different and unique interpretations of the same song. While the lyrics remain the same, each version has its own distinct style, beat, genre, lead vocals, and melody. We have a talented variety of Male & Female lead vocals and even a duet in this version In many ways, owning this complete 14-version album is like listening to a full album of 14 different songs, all built around one central theme. Be sure to listen to all of the versions so you can get a feel for each style and decide which ones you’d like to have. Moderator's note: Link has been removed since it points to a website where the music is for sale - not a free download. This GOALS! Album features a variety of genres such as Country, Pop, Rock, Indie, Soft Rock, Adult Contemporary, Acoustic Soul, and Soft Rock Ballads GOALS! (Full 14 Version Album) Preview
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Scientists are saying we are getting a Super El Nino this year... summer will be hot
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Hello everyone, Here’s something else I’ve been thinking about and wanted to get your thoughts on… After the 1,000-year reign is completed, do you think it would ever be possible, if Jehovah would allow it, for the 144,000 to return to the earth—if they wanted to? I know the Bible explains their role and hope very clearly, so I’m not questioning that at all. This is more just one of those “what if” thoughts when you think about the future and how long eternity really is. Once everything is fulfilled and complete, could there ever be a time where something like that might happen? Or will their role and place always remain strictly in heaven? It’s interesting to think about, especially when you consider how much we don’t know about what Jehovah may have in store beyond what’s been revealed. Just one of those thoughts that makes you reflect on how incredible the future will be. What do you think?
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A random thread of absolute randomness...
dljbsp replied to Katty's topic in General Discussion & Everyday Chit Chat
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Sometimes we make mistakes, yes. Even when we try hard, something can go wrong. But we must remember — we are not walking alone. Jehovah sees everything, but He is not only watching to see us fail. He is watching to help us stand again. And Jesus is like an older brother who does not turn away when we feel ashamed. He stays there, speaking for us, supporting us. So when guilt feels heavy and you want to hide — that is the time to go closer, not run away.
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Saturday, April 18 If anyone does commit a sin, we have a helper.—1 John 2:1. The most important decision that any person can make is the decision to dedicate himself to Jehovah and to become part of His family of worshippers. Jehovah desires everyone to do so. Why? He wants them to enjoy a friendship with him and to live forever. (Deut. 30:19, 20; Gal. 6:7, 8) However, Jehovah does not force anyone to serve him. He allows each individual to decide what he will do. What if a baptized Christian breaks God’s law, committing a serious sin? If he does not repent, he must be removed from the congregation. (1 Cor. 5:13) Yet, even then, Jehovah fervently hopes that the wrongdoer will return to Him. In fact, that is an important reason why he provided the ransom—to make forgiveness possible for repentant sinners. Our loving God warmly appeals to wrongdoers, urging them to repent.—Zech. 1:3; Rom. 2:4; Jas. 4:8. w24.08 14 ¶1-2
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https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/nearly-70-georgia-now-extreme-drought-conditions/6VY5NKQVAFEOBBPPZ4VNK5WMQ4/ 70% of the state I live in is now experiencing severe drought. There also have been several proposed data centers to be built in various cities in Georgia. However, the state apparently does not have the means or resources to handle these data centers. I wonder if we will start seeing wildfires similar to those in California.
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Modern references to creative days:
*** w15 6/1 p. 5 How Science Affects Your Life ***
The Bible fixes no duration for the six creative “days.” Instead, it opens the door for modern scientists to study them and assign accurate time spans to them. We know that the creative “days” were much longer than 24-hour days.
*** g21 No. 3 p. 12 What the Bible Tells Us ***
So each of the six creative “days” during which God prepared the earth for life and created life on it could represent extremely long periods of time.
*** g 1/14 p. 12 Creation ***
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS God created the universe, including the earth, in the indefinite past—“in the beginning,” as Genesis 1:1 says. Modern science agrees that the universe had a beginning. A recent scientific model suggests it to be almost 14 billion years old.
*** lc pp. 26 Science and the Genesis Account ***
A careful consideration of the Genesis account reveals that events starting during one “day” continued into one or more of the following “days.”
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Are allergies on the rise (more so than just "being the season" for them)? 🤔· 2 replies
My grandma of 81 years was complaining yesterday about having to deal with allergies, despite it never really being a thing for her before.
Even in my own circumstances, I find myself using my albuterol inhaler and nearly having asthma attacks, despite growing out of that many years ago. Now it's back... 😔
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My spiritual routine is… sorely lacking order…· 6 replies
My list of personal study projects only keeps growing, and it seems I cannot finish even one. I am absolutely terrible at study. My brain just doesn’t seem to “go off,” but at the same time, nothing ever gets accomplished 😵💫
Like now—I found a JW-friendly app (Personal Bible Trainer). I chose to read the Bible from scratch, both the Old and New Testament, and it gives a challenge, goal, or thought to focus on with the chapters (or part of a chapter) you’re reading. I also decided to highlight my Bible while I’m at it so I know for sure I read the chapters. Then I remembered I had started writing down the characters mentioned, so I don’t forget who was in the chapter, when, where, and in what order. And then there’s the daily text and weekly meeting study… it’s just all horror!
Just from this, you can probably see my mind is absolute chaos 🤯 My brain feels like a bag filled with water—but full of holes.
I’ve cut back on work due to my health slowly deteriorating. Now I’m only working 2 days a week instead of 4. I stopped going out in field service and have been asking others not to invite me because I keep having to cancel last minute due to my mystery illness/condition.
Now I really need ideas that might help plug these holes—so I can actually retain information and build a study routine that works for me. I can’t even remember how I was able to handle so many subjects back in my school days 😮💨
I know most brothers and sisters have families, strong spiritual routines, and goals that help them stay focused on spreading the good news of the Kingdom. Being in the truth by myself, I’m doing everything solo. And over the years—with moving to an actual home, changing congregations, and now my health failing at this age… anything I once had in mind spiritually (like learning a new language, LDC, or working on projects like Ramapo) is gone, and my zeal has almost fizzled out.
I had some shepherding calls after isolating myself for so long and not attending meetings for a few months. The elders reminded me that there are people who care about me, even when life gets in the way—and that isolation won’t help. And they’re right… it doesn’t.
The only thing that kept me going—then and even now—are Jesus’ words and Peter’s response after many stopped following him:
“So Jesus said to the Twelve: ‘You do not want to go also, do you?’ Simon Peter answered him: ‘Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.’” — John 6:67–69
Right now, I’m just trying to focus on getting my mind back into studying properly and maybe having a good comment at the meetings again.
Any advice you may have that could help—I would really appreciate it. Otherwise, please just keep me in your prayers. 🙏🏼
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When u think that Jehovah’s promise is too slow and taking long time to come to pass, kindly remember these Bible passage:· 1 reply
2Peter 3: 8,9.
"However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day."
"Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance."
Since a day is like a thousand years in his eyes, have u lived up to an hour in HIS eyes so that u may lose patient and consider HIS promises slow 🐌 ? Food for thoughts! ✌️
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To all brothers and sisters 💜· 5 replies
I truly appreciate the opportunity to read your posts and think deeply about subjects I may not have considered before.
It’s often been difficult for me to express my thoughts clearly in person—those conversations sometimes end in silence, awkwardness, or embarrassment. But having the chance to share my thoughts here and respond to others has been a new and amazing experience for me.
Thank you all for that.
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Good morning/evening friends,· 5 replies
I am feeling terribly ill and wonder how my brothers and sisters keep hanging in there.
A little insight on my mystery illness/condition: I have always had intestinal issues, but recently, last August, things have shifted drastically. Instead of the usual bouts of intestinal pain, uterine pain has come about as well. It wasn’t anything too unusual since both parts are in close proximity and affect each other a lot of the time. But this time, the pain is constant, makes me sick, and makes me feel weak.
It affected me so much that I lost my appetite and lost 25 lbs. Recently, I am able to eat a bit more. The pain isn’t as constant, but the sickness is. I never understood what motion sickness was like until this condition struck me. Just turning in bed or walking is so sickening.
I have to cut back on my days at work because the illness affects me all day. Some days it’s bearable, and having to drive to work puts my adrenaline in gear, and when I start working, I get another dose. However, now at work, I sweat so much, and I always feel like I’m going to throw up at any moment. Weakness is starting to replace the adrenaline.
I have an MRI set up for the end of next month and am currently still waiting for a call from the gastroenterologist and gynecologist to schedule appointments. I might have to call again Monday to ask why I am not getting the calls.
I have been praying, reading the Bible, and using jw.org, but my mind is so chaotic, and I end up biting off more than I can chew when I try to focus on something. I start with one task, then it ends up branching into 50 other sub-tasks. I am being very inefficient and would like to know what scriptures or articles you find helpful during these kinds of days.
Also, what else helps give you peace, soothes, and helps you remain patient through the frustration of waiting for approvals and appointments?
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Michael—welcome.· 0 replies
Romania feels like one of those places where the past and present are constantly in quiet conversation… mountains that have seen generations come and go, cities that carry their history without needing to say much about it. There’s something grounding about that.
I noticed you’re serving as a publisher—that’s meaningful. It also brings to mind how the work has continued to move forward across Eastern Europe, including Romania, often under changing conditions, yet with a steady kind of faith that doesn’t draw attention to itself—but endures.
I’m really glad you’re here. Communities like this benefit from thoughtful voices, and I have a feeling yours will be one of them.
Looking forward to hearing from you when you’re ready.
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