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Here is a little historic treat for you. Brother Rutherford speaks from Madison Square Garden in 1939 in a talk entitled “Government and Peace.” (1 hour) At around the 25-minute mark, you can hear opposers in the background trying to interrupt the program, but to no avail. What a powerful speaker he was!

Imagine how the teacher feels. It wasn't just texting. She struck the officer, a felony. All she had to do was put the phone down. Now I know it is so popular now to say the big mean cop hurt this poor innocent little girl. But all she had to do was follow the instructions of the teacher, principal, officer. All She had to do was put the phone down.

If I read the story correctly. The teacher had a discussion with the student, and then the vice principle was called who also had a discussion with the student, and then the officer was called who also first had a discussion with the student. What happens when all discussions do not bring results? The officer may have over-reacted, but what were his alternatives? I just saw that he was fired to appease popular opinion. As Jerry stated, if I were the student, I would have gotten it worse from my parents after this incident was finished.

And? I'm pretty sure that the attendant in a hall can't tackle someone who forgets to turn off their ringer, nor can a supervisor break the arm of an employee who presses a wrong button. Yet this is the lesson being taught in the schools, and it very often carries over into their adult life. Personally, I'm getting tired of people resorting to violence first rather than any actual discussion. If I am three steps ahead of you in the grocery store and I get into the checkout line that you want, all you have to do is say "I'm in a rush could I go ahead of you". Instead, the increasingly common attitude many have is to shove others out of the way, then scream at the top of their lungs if the one being shoved doesn't fall far enough out of the way. I feel that defensive violence should be an absolute last resort only employed when all other alternatives have been exhausted, but I understand that some may feel differently.

Hab 2:3 - For the [highlighting] is yet for the appointed time. . . Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it. For it will without fail come true. It will not be late.

The whole situation just isn't sliced right, it really fries me the way they smoke up the issue instead of curing it...

Getting OT again: I was standing in an under 20 item grocery line, and a man a few customers behind me told me to get out, I had too many items. I had a couple of bulky items,like an 8 roll of paper towels, but they were in a package, so a one ring item. "Oh, I'm sorry, I'll check it out." I replied. Since the customer ahead of me was checking through, I asked the cashier if I had too many items. "No, you're fine," she said. I did not look up and make eye contact with the complainer, because I did not want to seem smug. If I was doing something wrong, I would surely have moved. I have frequently seen people ahead of me in express lines with a cart overflowing, but have never taken it upon myself to correct them. I'm sorry you were physically shoved in a grocery store. That is really public assault.

You are SO right. This does seem to be the primary issue - "how to handle defiant students." Teachers and admin need to have a way to do this. When I was growing - if I had done what she did and the office did what he did - my parents might have given a thank you gift to the officer! And I would not have been able sit down without pain for a day or so. I am reminded of a few Bible verses: Eccl 8:11 http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008244?q=become+a+thankless+one&p=par

"Kids are not criminals, by the way. When they won't get up, when they won't put up the phone, they're silly, disobedient kids — not criminal." ( quote from the article.) Classrooms are unmanageable when students are playing with their phone, or what I used to call "lap-staring." Many students said they had a habit of staring at their laps, when they were actually using their phone. This is so prevalent in school, probably 90 plus per cent of my students were 'lap starers'. " It is impossible to teach when students are just not looking up or doing work, because they were only looking at their phone 'for a second'. Although they were not supposed to be using their phones in school, there was no recourse to deal with it. Some parents fought for their sons/daughters rights to keep their phone in class. Non compliance to school and class rules are disobedient, but not silly. The teacher is powerless when the student defiantly refuses to follow rules. The teacher refers to the administrator, and the student refuses to be compliant, again. The school police officer intervened, and has been informed that the school resource police person is also powerless. I have no particular opinion on this case, but from my own experience, the system is too broke to be fixed, And there is nothing silly about that.

I also have to attend a customer aggression course, as I work for a govt department, and we have as our customers those who are unemployed, in crisis, medically and socially disadvantaged. These are people who are at their wits end, and who take drugs to self-medicate, or take out their frustrations on us employees. Today, I was serving a customer who had 6 children, and she needed her business completed asap as she had to be somewhere in half an hour. So why come to the office serving baby food to the youngest child still obviously breastfed, then another child one year older, and another one just one year older than that one, all in tow? I told her that she might like to consider coming in to do her business when she had more time and could concentrate, but then my supervisor came to help me as she started to go red in the face and actually rudely told the supervisor to "buzz off! Lucy is handling this. I don't want you here". Really??!! We have duress alarms under our desks, and the police come over when they go off. Lovely job!

It's not LATE! LOL ☺ It took a while to get from copper to silver and then silver to gold. Ha ha!

gluttons for theocracy! Gotta love it here!

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now as presented in Annual Meeting 2015, the highlighting function in JW Library will be available next month

She may have only been texting, but, essentially, it was her defiant attitude and continued *disobedience* and disrespect for authority that got her into trouble. As we know, this is pretty common in the world today. I even see it on the part of several people under 30 at my place of employment. You can't tell them anything..and you'd better not try! I feel for most police today. They are in an untenable situation. If they do nothing, they're not doing their job. If they do something, even when it isn't over the top, they're brutal, racists, or both.

Perhaps he could have stunned her - instead of what he did? At some point enforcement is necessary - it just can't be too extreme. May the Kingdom come soon!!!!

I am glad I went to public school, but I am also glad I went WHEN i did!!! The 70s and 80s did not have the same issues as today

Says the guy with 2 heads (ONE of which is a CAT!!) OR - did I just prove your point EAT MORE BACON!!!

mmmmm....smoked ham......mmmmmmm

Thanks Dusty, I never knew anything about her. She is gorgeous. Born on November 9, 1922, in Cleveland, Ohio, Dorothy Dandridge sang at Harlem's famed Cotton Club and Apollo Theatre and became the first African-American woman to be nominated for an Academy Award for best actress. Her ability to break new ground for African American women in film has drawn comparisons between her and baseball great Jackie Robinson. In her childhood, Dandridge experienced some difficulties. She never knew her father. Her mother, actress Ruby Dandridge, left her father while she was pregnant with Dorothy. Dandridge later suffered at the hands of her mother's girlfriend, Geneva Williams. Williams was the displinarian in the family and was known for being strict and cruel with Dandridge. Dandridge was pushed into show business at a young age by her mother. Dandridge performed with her sister Vivian for a time as a song-and-dance team billed as "The Wonder Children." The girls performed throughout the South, playing black churches and other places. http://www.biography.com/people/dorothy-dandridge-9542081#early-life

http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/ http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Classification/latest_classif.php Alcoholic beverages, outdoor air pollution, and salted fish - are also on the list. If being on the list means you will not partake of them anymore - be careful breathing

I don't like the direction this topic is going. Creating our own script sounded like fun but I'm not interested in participating if the script infers homosexuality. I know I have a choice to just leave and not judge those that stay, so I'd appreciate if someone will PM me if this topic gets back on track.

Many have creative minds

You wish the friends would have enough discernment to realize that any time any legal matter may involve Jehovah's name they should contact the branch for advice..<sigh>

Brother Richard you are absolutely correct, even in jest this should not be brought up, it leaves a crooked thought in ones mind that you can't unsee. Hey...sometimes you seem like two different people.

These kind of headlines do not make for a good Witness. True, if the grand parents had won the case the story would have gone quietly to the grave. There would be no good or bad publicity attached to Jehovah’s name. The grand parents should have given some advanced thought to the publicity the case could engender. It is best to choose your battles carefully, select to fight only those you know you will win. It reminds me of an old court case from New Hampshire. One of our brothers took offense at the state license plate which declared the motto “Live free or die”. His claim was that having to display the license plate was a violation of his first amendment rights as a Jehovah’s Witness. The case went to the State Supreme Court and he lost. All he accomplished was to drag Jehovah’s name through the mud of public scorn. Choose your battles carefully. Keep Jehovah’s name out of it unless it is in defense of pure worship.

Exactly my point, thank you. If the "assault" occurred exactly as reported, then there are plenty of other ways this could have been handled without resorting to HULK SMASH. But at the same time, at least some of the initial charges people face are outright lies. For example, Robert Leone was charged for breaking an officer's finger, with his face, and Jose Cruz was charged for provoking an officer, by farting.

There, my point is made. All you had to was get out the way the first time! I'm sorry you got shoved Stavro. It makes me sad to hear of things like that happening. And I hate to say it, if I had been there with you, there probably would have been additional violence. Not much longer my Brother, not much longer.

I am not speaking of this particular incident, I am speaking of the common attitude that violence is something to be praised, as many tend to do in these situations. I personally don't think I did anything wrong when I was standing in a grocery store checkout line, but apparently my crime did indeed warrant being shoved out of the way into a sturdy display, which caused me to remain in the way of the shover, and a second shove ensured that I was on the floor and out of the shover's way.

Are you Sure? Look at Bacon - Jerry :eat:

No doubt. I never thought I would have to take a workplace violence and how to handle it. Pretty wild. I look forward to the day when we can go about our day with no one to threaten us or force us to do what we dont want to do. Except Jehovah. He won't force us he will just ask nicely and we will.

I was thinking how well today's text applies! Matthew 24:34!

"Of Jewish extraction?" I don't understand what their ethnic or religious background has to do with the creating of movies for profit. Typically movies are made in the interest of the mighty dollar and high ratings. Most, if not all, movies adapted from books take liberties. The biblical movies of late have taken more liberties than in the past. Again, I do not understand why you emphasized "Jewish," Do you understand how that sounds when a specific race, nationality or religious group is emphasized when complaining about a decline of quality?

Can't wait for this. It will become my sole app for all of the meetings. But can you add notes?

My family study group started on the God's Kingdom book this month, having completely finished the Imitate Your Faith book just before the congregation started it. There is a reference there to Exodus 1:6, which referred to Joseph, his brothers, and "that whole generation". That verse really helps to clarify this definition of the word generation, because not only did it include Joseph and his brothers, but the group of people who were living during that entire episode of Israelite history. It would include not only those who were alive during the beginning of those events, but those who were acquainted with those who were alive then, who came to "know Joseph" by what they were told, and who were able to see their children and hear that history first hand, etc. The next Pharoah did not have that experience, so he had no love for Joseph or appreciation for what he did by God's power, so it was easy for him to oppress and enslave, and even attempt to kill the little boys who were the descendants of the children of Israel.

Ohhh goodie, something to go look up!!

I tutored myself through high-school, I love to learn EVERYTHING and public school held me back from learning. They had a structure and you didn't cross the line. In my home schooling I reveled in the things I could learn and did very well, particularly automotive, history and math. My children both went to public school and I hated the way it went, so much unstructured time made for "play time". MD caught on to this "play time" and found it could lead her to bad behavior, she quit fresh into her 9th year and went to test for GED, aced it. MS finished high school but revealed that there were things that went on that caused damage to him. At 30 he still won't tell me and left the truth around 20. My GD is home schooled. There isn't the structure I'd hoped for but you know she has a whole congregation giving her lessons- guitar, history, spelling, reading and me with mathematics.....she is getting a well rounded life lesson. Sooo I hope it works for her, Oregon has mandatory testing she has to pass, MD is a bit concerned.

Here in Fairbanks, we have hundreds of ravens and during the summer hundreds of sandhill cranes as well as all manner of ducks and geese. All the birds except for ravens leave for warmer climes in the fall and they do a lot of staging. The strangest thing that has happened here was that one of the ravens was electrocuted on top of a power pole right here in the middle of town. In just a very short time hundreds of ravens started gathering and they flew around the dead bird for a long time and very noisily expressed their loss. Then after awhile, they all flew away. All of the bird experts said they had never ever seen that kind of display before. I learned something today that I was not aware of-how to tell a crow from a raven. First off the raven is a bigger bird but in flight a raven's tail comes to a "V" at the back. We are pretty entertained by all the ravens that live around here. In the morning there will just flocks of them headed into town, just like commuters, then just before dark they all head back to the woods around town. Time to go home!! That experience Cheryl had was really unusual. Kinda scary.

the structured vs unstructured, has been said to a point they test lower... usually below 3rd grade, above 3rd grade they even up.. mainly because unstructured homeschoolers do NOT force reading before natural age.. and natural age is around 7... however, between ages 9-11 they all even out (unstructured and structured homeschoolers). All seem to go far and above public schoolers. OTOH, wouldn't that be the natural way... that children who are influenced more by grown parents who have their best interest at heart, rather then strangers (teachers) and immature children their own age. Not to mention that public school is ran by the government who is controlled by satan... so it's underlying objective... is for sure a whole nother ball game.

My husband's comment on hearing this was: "Wrong, WHO! My bacon is cured - it says so right on the package!" LOL!!

Some reasons I conclude the results are apples/oranges is that all the schools I worked in made no bones (among themselves) about falsifying scores or letting students work in groups during standardized individual exams. The schools also did not always follow timing guidelines. When I proctored our Middle School Students, they were upset that I did not let them help each other and I kept to the guidelines for timing.I lost favor with school admins (I used to be a school admin, myself,) due to my unwillingness to let students share answers, i.e. "cheat." . Many public school families have also opted out of testing. For some students, their school assistant or one-on-one did all the work. I will just give one more anecdotal experience of the ways in which public schools discriminate against homeschoolers. My friend decided to let her son take the (non-mandatory) state exam for her son's grade. He was put all alone in an auditorium and was told some one would be back to tell him when time was up. He was then handed all the paperwork and a pencil. His combined grade that returned was a 17. I had advised my friend, our sister, that allowing him to volunteer for this grade level testing may well be disappointing, since I had taught at this school. I am convinced that homeschoolers, in general, are better educated that public school students. (I also taught in private schools, therapeutic boarding school, and adult ed.) This is my first school year retired from teaching and my only regret is that I did not homeschool my children from day one.

I watched "The Birds" in the 60's when I was young and that movie still scares me. lol

I saw something similar recently in a movie called "The Birds" by Alfred Hitchcock, 1963. Had never seen the movie before. Maybe they're practicing for the evening meal on the Great Day of Jehovah.

I hate to open a can of worms, but there are homeschoolers who don't quantify their children's ability and "grade" by level from tests scores. Many are now opting out of state "required" standardization tests. Also this study is from 2007 and the number of homeschoolers/alternative schools vs. Public schools is growing. Unschooling or interest led learning is legitimate and now becoming a proven method that is is becoming very popular. Many homeschoolers (ones on this site ) may take offense to the idea that structure is "key". Just saying.

I swear that one big seagull looked like he was wearing a leather jacket and had a tattoo...

Personally this has been our experience also.Structure and a lot of parental involvement.Our son home schooled 5 of his 11 years thus far.He has attended high school since 9th grade until now.In that time he has only gotten 1 B on his report card,all else has been A's. Last year,his 10th grade year,he was given all the state proficiency test needed in our state to graduate,he past all 5.He does not have to take anymore proficiency test!!! Also he has all A's currently and if he continues with all A's and misses no school he does not have to take any more final exams!Ever! He is thrilled at this prospect.Also he currently has an A in Physics.The hardest class he has ever encountered he says.And that's compared to trig and pre-calculus . One thing this mom knows...my son is a happier kid.

Interesting: Thank you!! This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. It seems STRUCTURE is the key.

http://www.parentingscience.com/homeschooling-outcomes.html I have not seen any statistical studies that accurately measured the difference. .