The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[hatcheckgirl]

Oh Louisa, hoping you get well soon! Caught it off the kids?  It's inevitable. You get your rest and be better for the Memorial 💖

[Dustparticle]

I got my 4th dose of Moderna yesterday.  Regarding of how many doses of Chocolate, I stop counting after 1,554 and that was several years ago.

[Michał]

Meanwhile in Poland, nobody talks about 4th dose. And government withdraws majority of tests. So we have COVID but almost nobody will know about it. 

[Jay D]

Unfortunately it's a shame that kids, the greatest germ spreaders, are actually not wearing masks here at the UK meetings 😱

I think the brothers here have forgotten:

1- Yes, kids are generally exempt from wearing face masks in UK.

but

2- the GB direction didn't specify just adults are strongly encouraged to wear face masks, actually it's everyone at in-person meetings. In America, kids aged 2 and up have to wear face masks.

 

Unfortunately no one in the UK has realised the inconsistency in their following the direction. Please if you're a parent, mask up your kids!!

 

[pnutts]

They dropped mask mandate in Ontario 2 weeks ago and now according to wastewater samples estimate 100,000+ a day are contracting the viruses. Ontario has about 15 million population. Testing is showing 15 to 18% rate of infection with Very Very limited testing.

Doctors are telling people to wear masks but an awful lot are not.

We knew this was going to happen.

Glad direction is to wear masks at in person meetings.

[trottigy]

Yay! COVID is over 

 

 

 

 

[Dustparticle]

Why is China getting hit hard with this and the death rates are higher too?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-60762032

[Hotteok]

In ten days, no masking required outside, outdoors? in Korea.

Edited April 9, 2022 by VisualizeUrParadise

[Dustparticle]

A new  subvariant is popping up. https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/verify/coronavirus-verify/new-covid-subvariant-xe-combines-omicron-ba1-ba2/536-f8cea186-9c15-497b-889a-2499c4d249fb

[Luisabola]

On 4/8/2022 at 3:30 AM, pnutts said:

They dropped mask mandate in Ontario 2 weeks ago and now according to wastewater samples estimate 100,000+ a day are contracting the viruses. Ontario has about 15 million population. Testing is showing 15 to 18% rate of infection with Very Very limited testing.

Doctors are telling people to wear masks but an awful lot are not.

We knew this was going to happen.

Glad direction is to wear masks at in person meetings.

I totally agree. The kids peppa pig’s masks arrived today and we did some ‘practise’ for a few minutes. Followed by a little treat. A few mins everyday I’m hoping they’ll be ok for the memorial (our next in person meeting).
 

Kids are the super spreaders unfortunately, because of school. I understand not school age ones not needing them, especially if they are with their parents all the time. 

[Sequoia]

COVID vaccine program prevented millions of US deaths, study finds (msn.com)

 

Interesting and encouraging.

[Friends just call me Ross]

The largest city on earth remains in lockdown.

 

Just delaying the inevitable?

 

Edited April 11, 2022 by Friends just call me Ross
Spell wreck

[Dhanyel]

I would like to know what is happening in Shanghai, why this unexpected Lockdown?Have they discovered a powerful new Variant and are hiding it from the world? 

[Friends just call me Ross]

The video mentioned that China's political leaders had painted the country into a corner with its "Zero Covid" policy.

 

To 'save face', the government has kept this policy going...and going...and going.

 

 

At least, that is what the video reports as the reason for the continued lockdown.

 

Also, the low numbers of their citizens over the age of 80 being vaccinated.

 

An alternate 'truth' may trickle out...eventually.

[Friends just call me Ross]

Dr. John Campbell talks about the China policy at the end of this video.

 

 

👍👍

[Loopy]

Philadelphia is back down to level 2 where people have to wear masks indoors.

[hatcheckgirl]

Western Australia has probably peaked its Omicron wave. The Health Minister, “Ms Sanderson quickly dashed hopes of mask rules being ditched any time soon though, reiterating how critical they have been to limiting the impact of the state's Omicron wave.

"Masks will probably not be lifted too early, because they've genuinely helped slow down that transmission," she said.”

 

Cases are lower than expected, and “Hospital and ICU admissions are also lower than expected, with just a fraction of the estimated figures materialising.

 

Unvaccinated people continue to be significantly over-represented in hospital admissions, accounting for 31 per cent of admissions in the week of the peak, but only being about 1 per cent of the population.“

 

Again, it’s obvious masks and vaccination has played a big part in keeping cases low and less hospitalisation. 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-12/epidemiologist-says-wa-has-passed-covid-peak/100981654

 

 

 

[vern]

Record cases witj all the vaccines and boosters given????

 

 

Humm...

[Mykyl]

47 minutes ago, vern said:

Record cases witj all the vaccines and boosters given????

 

 

Humm...

Vaccines don’t stop you catching it. They reduce the chances of severe illness and/or death.
 

No surprises there.  

[dove]

1 hour ago, hatcheckgirl said:

 

 

Unvaccinated people continue to be significantly over-represented in hospital admissions, accounting for 31 per cent of admissions in the week of the peak, but only being about 1 per cent of the population.“

 

 

 

 

 

If unvaccinated people account for 31% of admissions, does that mean the other 69% admissions are vaccinated? And what does it mean that they are 'over-represented'?

Sometimes I have a difficult time understanding all the statistics..

[hatcheckgirl]

Vern, have a look at what I’ve posted above. This is what is happening in my state, where vaccination rates are high and recent. There was no real covid outbreaks here until Omicron, and by then the population was highly vaccinated. So we had barely any natural immunity, only from vaccination.

 

Add to that the fact that masks are worn indoors, and we social distance. We have capacity limits that will affect the attendance at our Memorial, so we could only invite people to zoom, not in person due to the government regulations.

 

Lastly, check the graph. That line at the bottom shows very flat numbers of hospitalisation. And the actual figures show that unvaccinated ones make up around a third of all admissions, but they are only 1% of the population, so unvaccinated ones are over-represented. If vaccination didn’t help, then only 1% of the unvaccinated would be in hospital. So a much smaller proportion of the population is in icu or hospital because vaccination has worked. That’s indisputable.

 

Surely, is it not obvious that masks, social distancing, hygiene, full vaccination has helped reduce death and hospitalisation here in WA compared with what’s happened in your country and within Europe? 🤔.
 

The big difference is the ATTITUDE of compliance to global health advice, which has consistently said wear masks to limit viral load, and vaccinate to boost your immune system. Nothing is going to stop the spread, as China will have to admit to one day. But we can still do much to mitigate the worst of it.

 

Stay safe friends!

 

@Dove I've answered it in this post. See above.

Edited April 12, 2022 by hatcheckgirl

[trottigy]

10 minutes ago, Dove said:

If unvaccinated people account for 31% of admissions, does that mean the other 69% admissions are vaccinated? And what does it mean that they are 'over-represented'?

Sometimes I have a difficult time understanding all the statistics..

The answer is in the quote. If unvaccinated of that age group is only 1% of the population, what percentage should they be of the population getting sick and going to the hospital? 1% correct? But instead they are 31%. In other words 31 times MORE likely to be hospitalized than they are as a percentage of the overall population.

Edited April 12, 2022 by trottigy

[Joey]

According to the article
The total hospital admissions was 57,476 and 
31% of that number is 17,817.56
Leaving 39,658.44. Were these vaccinated ones?

In the article wasn't the 31% speaking of the number admitted ? 

[hatcheckgirl]

If all the population is vaccinated, then 100% of cases in hospital are vaccinated people. Most of WA (Western Australia) is vaccinated. The hospital admission with covid will mean it reflects that. Only a small proportion of the population (between 1-5%, not sure of exact figures) have not had any vaccination. Yet of this small percentage, they make up 31% of the hospitalisations. This means without vaccination you are 30 plus times more likely to need hospitalisation. 
 

So of all the cases of a population, if you are vaccinated you are less likely to need hospitalisation. 
 

Cases vs population. I hope that’s clearer. 
 

From the whole of Australia tracking site regarding the state of NSW (Sydney):

 

“Figures from NSW Health show that as of Feb 6, 2022, unvaccinated people are more than five times more likely to be hospitalised for COVID-19 and nearly 8 times more likely to be in ICU than those who are double- or triple-vaccinated. Before the first cases of the Omicron variant were detected in Australia on November 27, 2021, unvaccinated people were 25 times more likely to be hospitalised for COVID-19.“

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704
 

Wherever you are in the world, you’ll see this same pattern. The higher the vaccination rate in the population, the lower the hospitalisation and death rate, vs being unvaccinated. Omicron has thankfully been less severe for all, especially the unvaccinated. 

[coolbrz731]

12 hours ago, Daphne said:

According to the article
The total hospital admissions was 57,476 and 
31% of that number is 17,817.56
Leaving 39,658.44. Were these vaccinated ones?

In the article wasn't the 31% speaking of the number admitted ? 

Just looking at the numbers, for the vaccinated, it shows that 39,658 were hospitalized out of a total population of ~2,640,000.

Now for the unvaccinated which is 1% of the population, you have 17,817 hospitalized out of a population of ~ 26,700.  

 

When you look at it from that perspective....