Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[truce]

12 hours ago, trottigy said:

Harder or easier I don't know (as I have never been both), but I do know - that the Creator of the Entire Universe can help anyone overcome anything!

You have never been homosexual or heterosexual?? What then are you? An angel? 😇 

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, truce said:

You have never been homosexual or heterosexual?? What then are you? An angel? 😇 

I've never been both. Not too many people have been both. 

 

One of the two? Yes. 

[trottigy]

5 hours ago, truce said:

You have never been homosexual or heterosexual?? What then are you? An angel? 😇 

 

Yes, I have only been ONE of these - never BOTH.

 

I imagine only someone who has been BOTH heterosexual and homosexual would be able answer which is more difficult for them to deal with.

 

But again - the only thing that matters is -> Jehovah can help anyone overcome anything IF they rely on Him. For some - just getting up every morning and not ending things the day before is the most difficult challenge. Difficult or easy - we need Jehovah and without Him, it is all too difficult. 

 

I am glad everyone reading this made the choice to continue in their service to our great God for one more day.     (Psalms 115:17)

Edited December 24, 2024 by trottigy

[Dolce vita]

3 hours ago, trottigy said:

 

Yes, I have only been ONE of these - never BOTH.

 

I imagine only someone who has been BOTH heterosexual and homosexual would be able answer which is more difficult for them to deal with.

 

But again - the only thing that matters is -> Jehovah can help anyone overcome anything IF they rely on Him. For some - just getting up every morning and not ending things the day before is the most difficult challenge. Difficult or easy - we need Jehovah and without Him, it is all too difficult. 

 

I am glad everyone reading this made the choice to continue in their service to our great God for one more day.     (Psalms 115:17)

" . For some - just getting up every morning and not ending things the day before is the most difficult challenge."

 

How right you are, dear Jerry @trottigy, how right you are. I know many around, and some very strong in the faith, but it seems that the weight of the day becomes too heavy to bear so the challenge is to manage to make it to the next day. They are brothers and sisters who speak in an extraordinary way about the presence of Jehovah in their lives, that is to say in the day that is. Beautiful ones.

[Sofia]

https://theglobalobservatory.org/2024/11/what-might-be-in-store-for-the-united-nations-under-a-second-trump-presidency/
 

highlights:

 

[Sofia]

Possible scenario:

Trump knows UN needs US money 

Trump needs UN powerful for US global influence 

Thus: UN needs urgent reform for US to keep funding it.

This can happen now very soon.

The article above seems vey logical 

[Dolce vita]

29 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Possible scenario:

Trump knows UN needs US money 

Trump needs UN powerful for US global influence 

Thus: UN needs urgent reform for US to keep funding it.

This can happen now very soon.

The article above seems vey logical 

Darling Sofia❤️, since we recently learned that it is Jehovah who will force them to act, is it useful to follow what humans, via one or more leaders of this world, intends or not to do anything related to UN reform? If Jehovah constrains them, does that not mean, basically, that the UN will remain toothless as long as Jehovah does not force all the nations of the world to strengthen it? Sincere question.

[cme]

What politicians do or, do not do is irrelevant.  Again, nations are but a drop in a bucket for Jehovah as we all well know.

 

Like bro. Jackson said, "it will take an act of God".

[Michelle112]

24 minutes ago, cme said:

What politicians do or, do not do is irrelevant.  Again, nations are but a drop in a bucket for Jehovah as we all well know.

 

Like bro. Jackson said, "it will take an act of God".

And it will be.....SUDDENLY 😜

[Ysaias]

14 minutes ago, Michelle112 said:

And it will be.....SUDDENLY 😜

And with STYLE!

 

"Yes, he does the unexpected, and he does it with style." --Bro. Geoffrey Jackson

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwbam_201610_3_VIDEO&ts=00:48:29

[Robinson]

On 12/23/2024 at 4:59 PM, Shawnster said:

All a heterosexual couple need do in order to be approved by Jehovah is get married. A homosexual couple does not have that option. Their relationship must end if they ever want Jehovah's approval. 

Well, I've known homosexual men who got married to sisters. Is the desire still there for the former life? Im sure. But think of a heterosexual who may have been involved in perverse things. They no longer can do those things if they want jah's blessings. That's a lifestyle change too. I know of brothers and sisters who have been df 3 or more times because the desire for that former life was strong. As a single sister, it is hard to find a brother in the truth. A lot of my friends have given into being unevenly yoked.  I don't feel an extra set of sadness for homosexuals. We're fighting the same battle...trying to remain faithful in an immoral world. 

[JennyM]

22 hours ago, trottigy said:

 

 

But again - the only thing that matters is -> Jehovah can help anyone overcome anything IF they rely on Him. For some - just getting up every morning and not ending things the day before is the most difficult challenge. Difficult or easy - we need Jehovah and without Him, it is all too difficult. 

 

I am glad everyone reading this made the choice to continue in their service to our great God for one more day.     (Psalms 115:17)

We are being attacked on different levels. frontal and subtle .. emotional, physical, mental and spiritual. I agree that without Jehovah it is all too difficult. 

[Mike047]

We must look to Jehovah and our Lord Jesus for the help and strength to continue on. Our personal spirituality is our first priority. If we look after that, we can then help family, friends and others.

 

There will be those who are not yet with us, who join with us during the challenging time ahead. Sadly, though, there will be those who are with us who will not stay the race. We must do all we can to care for ourselves, so that we can offer every help to others. If we all struggle together, we will get through. 

[navco]

3 hours ago, Robinson said:

Well, I've known homosexual men who got married to sisters. Is the desire still there for the former life? Im sure. But think of a heterosexual who may have been involved in perverse things. They no longer can do those things if they want jah's blessings. That's a lifestyle change too. I know of brothers and sisters who have been df 3 or more times because the desire for that former life was strong. As a single sister, it is hard to find a brother in the truth. A lot of my friends have given into being unevenly yoked.  I don't feel an extra set of sadness for homosexuals. We're fighting the same battle...trying to remain faithful in an immoral world. 

right i know a brother who was  disfellowshipped for 7 years he is reinstated now but he was  out there and said he  cant be married because one women  is boring to him he needed many at a time which caused his disfellowshipping he just got married 20 years later lol he said his body Finally calmed down and he meet the perfect women.

Edited December 25, 2024 by navco

[Percy]

56 minutes ago, navco said:

Finally calmed down and he meet the perfect women.

Not possible. I've got the perfect woman!!!

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, Percy said:

Not possible. I've got the perfect woman!!!

 

 You might have a perfect woman, but how about her husband?????

[shelby]

A relative asked is it not cruel of god not to permit us to have what we truly desire, and isn’t it so much harder for a gay person.  I tell him no, it’s really not.  There are men and women who have had to control their sexual desires to live a Christian lifestyle.  Just because you learn what Jehovah likes and dislikes does not mean the changes are effortless.  It’s like smoking or over drinking, sometimes the cravings for those things are strong, so the “pummel your body” scripture comes into play.  It’s more like pummeling your body and your mind.  But people do it because they are fully convinced that Jehovah’s way is the right way.  And he does help us, but we have to do the work of killing off the old habits and desires.

[Patience87]

22 hours ago, shelby said:

A relative asked is it not cruel of god not to permit us to have what we truly desire, and isn’t it so much harder for a gay person.  I tell him no, it’s really not.  There are men and women who have had to control their sexual desires to live a Christian lifestyle.  Just because you learn what Jehovah likes and dislikes does not mean the changes are effortless.  It’s like smoking or over drinking, sometimes the cravings for those things are strong, so the “pummel your body” scripture comes into play.  It’s more like pummeling your body and your mind.  But people do it because they are fully convinced that Jehovah’s way is the right way.  And he does help us, but we have to do the work of killing off the old habits and desires.

This reasoning sounds like Satan's reasoning to Eve on God being cruel and not letting her have what she wanted, very twisted. I would just reason on this that as parents we know more than our children do, and we don't allow them to have just anything they desire, because we know that it wouldn't be good for them. Same thing with Jehovah. We are imperfect children and sometimes we desire wrong things; it doesn't mean we should get our way and give in to any whim or desire we have. We recognize that Jehovah knows best, and we are willing submit to his authority because we know it is for our own good.

[shelby]

For our own good, yes. But also because we love him more than we love anything else.  I used to tell my son “you have to love Jehovah more than you love your pants.”  He knew what I meant…I know there is more to it than that.  There is also an element of self destructiveness in someone who goes looking for “love” in all the wrong places.  It’s so much more complex than just squashing that pesky libido. There is also the sense of solidarity the gay community appears to have that is attractive to one that feels like (or let’s face it-*is*) a misfit.  Yet they have to be willing to consider their old life “a lot of refuse” just to try to fit in to a Christian lifestyle.  And the invisible creep is not going to make it easy for them.

[SheyZ]

1 hour ago, Patience87 said:

This reasoning sounds like Satan's reasoning to Eve on God being cruel and not letting her have what she wanted, very twisted. I would just reason on this that as parents we know more than our children do, and we don't allow them to have just anything they desire, because we know that it wouldn't be good for them. Same thing with Jehovah. We are imperfect children and sometimes we desire wrong things; it doesn't mean we should get our way and give in to any whim or desire we have. We recognize that Jehovah knows best, and we are willing submit to his authority because we know it is for our own good.

And for the good of others... Such a loving God 💕

[vern]

why did this thread get a little bonkers?

 

Jehovah made them male female in the beginning...........

 

Only room for discussion is intersex problems......  which I've read is far more common then you would think.... if that was accurate.

 

again.... simple........ male or female.... complete intact genitalia. trans are not intersex;  they just want to be different.

[SheyZ]

5 minutes ago, vern said:

why did this thread get a little bonkers?

 

Jehovah made them male female in the beginning...........

 

Only room for discussion is intersex problems......  which I've read is far more common then you would think.... if that was accurate.

 

again.... simple........ male or female.... complete intact genitalia. trans are not intersex;  they just want to be different.

This ststem is so full of misinformation. People are hurting so much and so confused.. all we can do is pray for them and share the good news with them.. thank you Jehovah!

So sad!

[Ahuvah]

1 hour ago, shelby said:

For our own good, yes. But also because we love him more than we love anything else.  I used to tell my son “you have to love Jehovah more than you love your pants.”  He knew what I meant…I know there is more to it than that.  There is also an element of self destructiveness in someone who goes looking for “love” in all the wrong places.  It’s so much more complex than just squashing that pesky libido. There is also the sense of solidarity the gay community appears to have that is attractive to one that feels like (or let’s face it-*is*) a misfit.  Yet they have to be willing to consider their old life “a lot of refuse” just to try to fit in to a Christian lifestyle.  And the invisible creep is not going to make it easy for them.

 

If I can tie this into the time period we are living, perhaps even a harbinger of the approaching GT.

 

For decades like an anti John the Baptist, Satan has paved the way to subtly making differences acceptable even desirable.

 

You take the X-men series or any super hero series ... they made it okay to be a misfit, even heroic. These were in place in the world's thinking before the rise of the movements we are seeing now.

 

While on the surface, the message was and still is ... that if you have a disability or condition like say Dyspraxia... it's okay to be different and of course it is ... but then it moves in to factions that challenge Jehovahs right to rule.  Is it really so that marriage is between a man and woman? Is it really so there are just two genders?  The world has been moved seamlessly into a condition that is offensive, especially to our God.

 

Now, while this offends us of course, understanding that the mentality of people around us are contributing to the feet of iron and clay, should cause us to pause, and know that this is the way it has to go so Jehovah can clean it all up.

 

It's distressing yes, especially for those amongst our brothers and sisters who have fled from this world with inward attractions that are not, when acted out, scriptural. I think we should keep these ones in our prayers and their efforts in our hearts, because their fights are monstrous.  I for one are so proud they are standing with us.

[Doug]

We know it doesn't matter who the leaders of the world's governments are because Jehovah is always in control. He will do everything he has foretold and promised regardless of who he uses.

 

But I'm looking at the news and I have to say this Trump could be the right person at the right time, for Jehovah's purposes.  After nearly three full years of war between Russia and Ukraine, fatigue is taking a toll.  Putin is talking openly about a resolution.  He said "the new team in Washington should make the first move".  Well, say no more.  Trump would be deified on the world stage if he could be credited with ending that war.

It really feels like there could be a big change that could lend itself to P&S.  And before or after or concurrently, Jehovah will put his one thought into their minds.

[New World Explorer]

How many donuts everyone wants for coming back on the subject of this topic..??? 🤣