Covid-19 Vaccine Research, Development, Ingredients and Reactions

[Lee49]

"She went straight to a pill,"

 

Yes they do, same here tried to put me on BP meds several times, I charted all of my self BP test for several months (3/4 times a day ) took them to a heart specialist he concured that I do not need to be on BP meds, plus I was skeptical of the after effects.

[vern]

Someone said the 1918 deaths were from bacterial pnemonia.... No virus....

 

Be interesting to learn who.s telling stories....

 

[Naturale]

10 hours ago, vern said:

Someone said the 1918 deaths were from bacterial pnemonia.... No virus....

 

Be interesting to learn who.s telling stories....

 

The bacterial pneumonia is secondary.  Most deaths in the 1918 epidemic were caused by secondary bacterial pneumonia.  It was easy for bacteria to take hold and breed in an already ill body with an immune system weakened by the flu virus.

 

Also it is interesting that in the military barracks it was the new recruits, men unlikely to have been exposed to resident bacteria, who were dying in droves, while the soldiers who immune systems were accustomed to the local bacteria survived.

 

Most flu deaths are also caused by secondary, bacterial infections that take root in the weakened body, leading to pneumonia.

Edited November 30, 2020 by Naturale

[Naturale]

21 hours ago, Naturale said:

Covid cases are declining significantly in most areas of the UK and Britain.  The same disease doesn't go on indefinitely.  (No doubt as it starts to naturally disappear the governments will give the vaccine the credit)  We'll soon be onto the next virus as this system pants on.  In Yorkshire over 10,000 Turkeys had to be culled due to bird flu. Let's hope that particular virus doesn't mutate and infect any humans.  that's how the 1918 flu pandemic began - from an avian virus.

Just saw this  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/bird-flu-fears-grow-after-spate-of-mysterious-uk-swan-deaths

 

Wild birds get the blame but the reality is they have caught it from farmed birds.  Humans continue to cause problems like this through unnatural and usually appalling farming  methods.

 

 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/apr/24/real-cost-of-roast-chicken-animal-welfare-farms

[Witness1970]

18 hours ago, runner92 said:

I’m avoiding that vaccine for a little bit. I’m sorry, but doctors and governments lie and twist things too. Sometimes they don’t even know what in the world they’re talking about. Even a personal doctor I had was trying to get me on blood pressure medication for a symptom I had. When I finally looked at my own chart, I was very low in Vitamin B12. I read up on it and found out that what I was experiencing was a symptom of being low in B12. Started taking some and my symptom went away. When I feel it coming back, I take B12 and it goes away. My doctor didn’t even bother to tell me I was low in that vitamin. She went straight to a pill, probably for a kickback. 
 

 

I don’t automatically trust anything and will dig into it before I make a decision. I will wait and see what happens with this vaccine too.

I know several people are going to refuse to take the vaccinations.  I will wait and see what the governing body says before I make any decisions.

 

20 years ago, I studied all the antivaccination material.  I heard all the reasonings.  For a time, I held to the belief that vaccinations were all bad.  Since that time, and with more study, I am not so adamant about vaccines being a problem.

 

I have thought a lot about Jeremiah 10:23 and applied it to the medical system and all the chemicals they want to give us.  The problem is the medical system only treats symptoms. For instance, If you have high blood pressure, they don't address the cause, but instead they give you a pill to bring blood pressure down.  That being said, if you let the high blood pressure stay high too long, it can kill you.  The muscles in the heart enlarge.  Sometimes an enlarged heart doesn’t cause any symptoms. When symptoms do occur, they can include: shortness of breath, an irregular heart rhythm (arrhythmia), swelling in the legs and ankles caused by fluid buildup (edema), fatigue, and dizziness.  Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy can kill.   So the logical thing is to bring the blood pressure down.  If you can't treat the cause immediately, you can treat the symptoms temporarily.  Sometimes the right treatment might be to lose weight, instead of blood pressure medicine.  But that takes time, and while you work on losing weight, you might have to do something to get the blood pressure down.

 

Atrial Fibrillation is treated by doing a cardioversion, but those can only be done 3 times and the AFib always comes back, because the causes are not treated.  

 

You could say that about many health.  Treating symptoms is like someone having a bullet wound.  Instead of removing the bullet, they give you medicine for pain.  It gets infected, and they treat the infection. The real solution is to remove the bullet.

 

Some diseases will only be eradicated after Armageddon.  Then there will be physicians that can really cure our illnesses.  These "physicians' will be Jesus Christ and the 144,000.

 

 

[Lee49]

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/55128511

 

 How do you vaccinate 7.7 billion people?   there are several videos on this page, I think this one gives a more realistic view of the time line, distribution and cost factors needed to work!

[Shawnster]

38 minutes ago, Lee49 said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/55128511

 

 How do you vaccinate 7.7 billion people?   there are several videos on this page, I think this one gives a more realistic view of the time line, distribution and cost factors needed to work!

Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation? Fluoridation of water?  Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?   Do you realize that in addition to fluoridated water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream. Children's ice cream?  You know when fluoridation first began?  Nineteen hundred and forty six. How does that coincide with  conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. 

[Hope]

I like fluoridation!  Bless that plot!  😁👍🏼

[Lee49]

I don't drink fluoridated water, not even in my coffee! I don't trust the "other" stuff that they may be putting in our water ! Does the name Flint Mi. water supply ring a bell? Besides, most of my teeth are capped so no rotting taking place ! 😁

 

[Hope]

I've been drinking fluoridated water since childhood in the Chicago area and I have all my teeth- no caps.. and hardly any cavities.  My son's the same.

 

I even took note that the county I live in now does have fluoridated water- yes! There have been studies about the neighboring county without it has far higher numbers of bad teeth, especially the lower income families.  Flouride rocks! 😁💪🏽

[Old]

1 hour ago, Lee49 said:

I don't drink fluoridated water, not even in my coffee! I don't trust the "other" stuff that they may be putting in our water ! Does the name Flint Mi. water supply ring a bell? Besides, most of my teeth are capped so no rotting taking place ! 😁

 

Fluoridated water can help prevent the need for caps. Healthy teeth don't need caps.

[Lee49]

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/water-fluoridation-and-cancer-risk.html

Water Fluoridation and Cancer Risk

Many decades after fluoride was first added to drinking water in some parts of the United States, there is still controversy about the possible health effects of drinking water fluoridation. Many people have strong views either for or against water fluoridation. Their concerns are based on everything from legitimate scientific research, to freedom of choice issues, to government conspiracy theories.

This is a review of the possible link between water fluoridation and cancer. Other possible health effects of fluoridation (positive or negative) are not addressed here. This is not a position statement of the American Cancer Society.

[Qapla]

I know this is not the case with any JW's - but I find it amazing that so many people of the world who advocate against many things, like vaccines, calling them "dangerous" and something to be avoided with one breath while they smoke and/or vape with the another breath.

 

We just have to be careful that we stay neutral when it comes to the political and social aspects of subjects like vaccines.

 

 

[Lee49]

I didn't say I did not ever drink fluoridated water, I did, all my years until 10-15 years ago we switched to bottled because of the taste  and because I like to recycle the plastic lol, unless you have a good filtration system the thought of drinking water from the tap doesn't appeal to me, of course there's the argument of plastic bottles causing harm also, I fill 3 gallon returnable hard plastic jugs for coffee water at the grocery store. I have many capped teeth not all do to decay, some chipped/cracked and because I've always had  good dental insurance and the dentist always took advantage of that, "you're going to need another cap" oh really!$$$$$

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, Lee49 said:

Water Fluoridation and Cancer Risk

 

I know I started it, but we're getting way off topic now.  Let's return to the topic please.

[Lee49]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/newssearch/?query=two shot covid vaccine&sort=Relevance&datefilter=All Since 2005     (click on link then 1st post )

 

A shot. A wait. Another shot: Two-dose coronavirus vaccine regimens will make it harder to inoculate America

 A two- or three-dose dose regimen is routine for building immunity against many illnesses, but it is unprecedented in a pandemic when the public health goal is to vaccinate 60 to 70 percent of the population within months to reach herd immunity and stop the virus’s spread.

 It’s not yet clear whether any of the new coronavirus vaccines in the pipeline will ultimately work best with a third shot capable of boosting long-term protection.

[Ms. Piffle]

9 hours ago, Witness1970 said:

Treating symptoms is like someone having a bullet wound.  Instead of removing the bullet, they give you medicine for pain.  It gets infected, and they treat the infection. The real solution is to remove the bullet.

Really like this analogy.  Thank you

[Dustparticle]

2 hours ago, Shawnster said:

I know I started it, but we're getting way off topic now.  Let's return to the topic please.

 

I’m with you on this, but let me go to the dentist and get my teeth fix first.

[Shawnster]

5 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

 

I’m with you on this, but let me go to the dentist and get my teeth fix first.

Remember to brush after eating chocolates 

[Dustparticle]

15 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Remember to brush after eating chocolates 

And before too my brother.

[Naturale]

Fluoride is known to be a toxic agent. It has been shown to inhibit the ability of the thyroid gland to concentrate iodine.  Research has shown that fluoride is much more toxic to the body when there is iodine deficiency present. When you have iodine deficiency you have an increased risk of developing thyroid dysfunction.

 

Dr Hans Moolenburgh's research in Holland found that up to 4 per cent of water-users experienced health problems following the addition of fluoride to the Amsterdam water supplies in 1972. Other problems included gastrointestinal disorders, mouth sores, rashes, headaches and forms of arthritis. Follow-up research in 1993 revealed significant increases in the incidence of cancer, arthritis and neurological complaints .  (Dr Hans Moolenburgh - physician, scientist, and warrior for freedom in the fight against fluoridation)

Edited December 1, 2020 by Naturale

[Lee49]

And now back to the vaccine topic -  https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-12-01-20-intl/h_1ce7f856f5dac4d3add961e6836c5c6b

 

All Americans who want to be vaccinated will be by June, Operation Warp Speed official says

 

 

Asked about his expectations regarding how many Americans will be vaccinated against Covid-19 by June, Lt. Gen. Paul Ostrowski, director of supply, production and distribution for Operation Warp Speed, said, “A hundred percent of Americans that want the vaccine will have had the vaccine by that point in time.”

“We will have over 300 million doses available to the American public well before then,” Ostrowski told MSNBC’s Yasmin Vossoughian on MSNBC Monday afternoon.

 

Seems a little too fast in my opinion! We'll see how many snags happen.

 

 

[Allabord4Jah]

This is the Government site on what is in the vaccines:

 

https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/vaccine_ingredients

 

 

 

[runner92]

11 minutes ago, Lee49 said:

And now back to the vaccine topic -  https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-12-01-20-intl/h_1ce7f856f5dac4d3add961e6836c5c6b

 

All Americans who want to be vaccinated will be by June, Operation Warp Speed official says

 

 

Asked about his expectations regarding how many Americans will be vaccinated against Covid-19 by June, Lt. Gen. Paul Ostrowski, director of supply, production and distribution for Operation Warp Speed, said, “A hundred percent of Americans that want the vaccine will have had the vaccine by that point in time.”

“We will have over 300 million doses available to the American public well before then,” Ostrowski told MSNBC’s Yasmin Vossoughian on MSNBC Monday afternoon.

 

Seems a little too fast in my opinion! We'll see how many snags happen.

 

 

Oh boy!

[SUNRAY]

5 minutes ago, Allabord4Jah said:

This is the Government site on what is in the vaccines:

 

https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/vaccine_ingredients

 

 

 

I appreciate that you provided this link, but what I would really like to know is what the almost approved Covid19 vaccine ingredients are. Maybe, eventually someone will have a vile with a label that lists ingredients. I  am wondering why one of the side effects for some in trials is a severe migraine - like headache.