Covid-19 Vaccine Research, Development, Ingredients and Reactions

[sunshine]

39 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Interesting. They had months to prepare for distribution of the vaccine. And they didn’t crunch the numbers??? 🤔

... to be fair, it would look very strange to launch  a massive recruiting  program  before the vaccine  had been approved  and  up 'til a couple of months ago people  were still pointing out it takes  between 6 to 10 years to develop one.  To recruit the hundreds if thousand of people needed to administer a drug before it came to market would have  been a huge indication of prior knowledge, so the only alternative was to start after approval.  So its that, the army. Or scale back the rollout.

 

 

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by sunshine

[hatcheckgirl]

I see what you mean. But it’s a logistical issue. You know how many people you have in your country. You know how many people are trained to give injections. Let’s train up now while we wait for the vaccine. They had time to plan it. 

[On the huh]

Its been confirmed that the Oxford vaccine contains no blood fractions.

[Luisabola]

On 1/1/2021 at 10:01 PM, On the huh said:

Its been confirmed that the Oxford vaccine contains no blood fractions.

Yeah we had this announcement today at our meeting 

[rocket]

3 hours ago, Luisabola said:

Yeah we had this announcement today at our meeting 

 

Was anything mentioned from the Branch about an ethical issue with the Oxford vaccine ???  If not why make one ???

[Julie]

9 minutes ago, rocket said:

 

Was anything mentioned from the Branch about an ethical issue with the Oxford vaccine ???  If not why make one ???

No just that the Oxford/Astro Zenica vaccine doesn't contain blood or blood fractions

[Sister Twister]

3 minutes ago, Julie said:

No just that the Oxford/Astro Zenica vaccine doesn't contain blood or blood fractions

So interesting , we didn't have the announcement , I will look out for it Wednesday.

[.Ivan.]

That type of vaccine does not need any blood fraction.

pharmaceutical companies use the ingredient squalene from fatty sharks. Squalene is a highly sought-after ingredient in cosmetics due to its moisturizing properties, but it is also used in vaccines as an adjuvant that can stimulate a better immune response.

mRNA vaccines are the latest approach to vaccine production. They use genetic material called messenger RNA (mRNA), which instructs cells to make part of the coronavirus protein, to which our immune system will then react and make antibodies. When we then come in contact with the coronavirus, our immune system will welcome it ready. Pfizer and Moderna are developing mRNA vaccines against COVID-19.

[On the huh]

2 hours ago, rocket said:

 

Was anything mentioned from the Branch about an ethical issue with the Oxford vaccine ???  If not why make one ???

Ethical issues are not a matter for the branch or anybody else.  They are only there to help with regards to the blood issue, which is a scriptural command.

As was said with the other about the vaccines "Medical care is a matter for personal decision. We do not attempt to make choices for others."

[Jothob]

Yes we had the announcement about the Oxford vaccine today too. It also said that, ‘medical care is a matter for personal decision. We do not attempt to make choices for others.’ 

[Qapla]

You might find this interactive map interesting/informative

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

 

 

Make sure you scroll on down for the World Map

 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Qapla

[Sally]

On 5/26/2020 at 6:42 AM, BenJepthah said:

      
     For practice: how would we apply Bible principals to the prospect of accepting such vaccinations? 

Now THIS is what I am searching for! Information about what these vaccines are made of is so conflicting.  I have read that they use "fetal cell lines" The Facts about the COVID Vaccines and Fetal Cell Lines 

Please offer Bible principles for us to reflect on.  

 

Thank you so very much!!

 

Sally

Edited January 4, 2021 by Sally

[New World Explorer]

Canada	113,879	303.5%
U.K.	196,844	294.7%
New Zealand	12,157	246.8%
Australia	58,678	229.9%

 

Wow, did not know about those figures, Canada's population coverage with the contract for vaccine is whopping 303.5% ...!

But with low population it's not hard to arrive at such percentage, in contrast UK with large population ~65.8 million people, is also bordering on 300%.

Thank you John for posting the link, I have learned something. 

[WilliamChew]

43 minutes ago, Qapla said:

You might find this interactive map interesting/informative

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

 

 

Make sure you scroll on down for the World Map

 

Good to see 4.33 million does have been given in the US.

 

We will soon know if there are any problems with the vaccines with such high usage.

[vern]

I read that article.......  Pretty much said they all use cell lines..... Just not abortive.....

 

They said they clean.... But i.ve been taught you can.t filter out bits of dna.... Its to smalll..

 

And that article mentioned 4 companies that are using abortive cell lines....

[Brandon]

22 minutes ago, vern said:

 

I read that article.......  Pretty much said they all use cell lines..... Just not abortive.....

 

They said they clean.... But i.ve been taught you can.t filter out bits of dna.... Its to smalll..

 

And that article mentioned 4 companies that are using abortive cell lines....

 

just curious, but why did you use more than 30 periods in this six-sentence comment? (including in the middle of the word “can’t”)

 

It was quite difficult to read.

[Lance]

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

but why did you use more than 30 period

I will answer this, even if it is totally off topic.

 

Different people have different ways of communicating.....

It is more point form communication..... Often the way normal conversational speech goes between people who are familiar with your thought pattern ... you will live.❤️......even though it is unconventional..

Edited January 4, 2021 by Lance

[New World Explorer]

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

why did you use more than 30 periods in this six-sentence comment?

This is my manner of thought process as well... 

I am known for being flexible with "winglish" grammar...  LOL  (manged 6 periods LOL ) 

Edited January 4, 2021 by New World Explorer

[kejedo]

2 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

This is my manner of thought process as well... 

I am known for being flexible with "winglish" grammar...  LOL  (manged 6 periods LOL ) 

As a writer, myself, I frequently use alternative or inventive punctuation. Six dots is a double ellipses, with an array of uses. All languages and their  grammatical  constructions are in constant transition and ever-progressing.  I had a tape of Cicero at the Forum, but it is reel to reel, and its verbiage is too obsolete for me to update it to a CD. Y(Amo Te)S

 

Edited January 4, 2021 by kejedo

[Amygdala]

15 hours ago, .Ivan. said:

pharmaceutical companies use the ingredient squalene from fatty sharks. Squalene is a highly sought-after ingredient in cosmetics due to its moisturizing properties, but it is also used in vaccines as an adjuvant that can stimulate a better immune response.

Another off topic but great to know about squalene! 🤓👍🏼

[friendlyone]

8 hours ago, Qapla said:

You might find this interactive map interesting/informative

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

 

 

Make sure you scroll on down for the World Map

 

I noticed this comment on the above page -

 

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Other countries got a head start on vaccinations. China and Russia authorized their own shots in July and August, before they’d been fully tested. 

No surprise there, not fully tested. I'd rather take my chances with the virus than trust a vaccine coming out of one of those countries.

 

The rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine has started today.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55525542

 

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More than half a million doses of the vaccine are ready for use on Monday.

 

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said it was a "pivotal moment" in the UK's fight against the virus, as vaccines will help curb infections and then allow restrictions to be lifted.

 

But Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said regional restrictions in England are "probably about to get tougher" as the UK struggles to control a new, fast-spreading variant of the virus.

On Sunday more than 50,000 new confirmed Covid cases were recorded in the UK for the sixth day running, prompting Labour to call for a third national lockdown in England.

 

 

[Brandon]

I will answer this, even if it is totally off topic.
 
Different people have different ways of communicating.....
It is more point form communication..... Often the way normal conversational speech goes between people who are familiar with your thought pattern ... you will live.......even though it is unconventional..

But please keep in mind that some of the people on this forum suffer from dyslexia, and others might not read English as their first language. If we all make up our own individualized grammar, we will end up like the builders of the tower of Babel.


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[Sally]

DNA and RNA-based vaccines: principles, progress and prospects

Cells transfected with ‘self-replicating’ vectors briefly produce large amounts of antigen before undergoing apoptotic death. This death is a likely result of requisite double-stranded (ds) RNA intermediates, which also have been shown to super-activate DC. Thus, the enhanced immunogenicity of ‘self-replicating’ genetic vaccines may be a result of the production of pro-inflammatory dsRNA, which mimics an RNA-virus infection of host cells.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1986720/

Apoptosis is a form of programmed cell death, or “cellular suicide.” 

https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/developmental-biology/apoptosis-in-development/a/apoptosis#:~:text=Summary-,Apoptosis is a form of programmed cell death%2C or “cellular,cells die due to injury.&text=It contrasts with necrosis (death,Apoptosis removes cells during development.

[Sally]

Hi All,

 

Here is a video that I found about research someone did about what is actually in a vaccine.  Her language is quite strong so be forwarned!

 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1329170840349511680

[New World Explorer]

12 minutes ago, Sally said:

Hi All,

 

Here is a video that I found about research someone did about what is actually in a vaccine.  Her language is quite strong so be forwarned!

 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1329170840349511680

I have read her other comments about Trump, 

Just be careful, very careful, as she is promoting many things.

I can't take her seriously....at all. (Take the red pill...WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!! Prescribing TRUMP and TRUTH daily. God Bless America!!!!!!!