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30 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

We all know the way the wind is blowing.  It's been blowing this way for a long time now.

 

True.  And as I said, governments are slow.  So that being the case, the timing is right for now being a greater chance of action happening.  Not only that, now there's so many SJWs and woke culture, they could actually move forward with these ideas.  They'd actually have massive support now.

 

Here's another that just popped up:

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/fbi-found-gateway-declare-christians-criminals-federal-whistleblower

 

The pressure is building.  One day soon, the volcano will explode!!  :D

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The Washington Times is a politically conservative paper founded by Sun Myung Moon. He was a Korean religious leader who believed God chose him as a savior for mankind. He was the head of the unification church.  The article referenced was indeed an opinion piece. The GB suggests we be careful about the news sources we read. There is a lot of misinformation out there. All I'm saying is to be careful.

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8 hours ago, halfspanishlee said:

No livro de trabalho do ministério vida e m de maio, há um artigo de estudo sobre isso. Você está preparado para uma crise econômica? 

It's best to keep a stock of food, check your emergency backpack, have everyday medications, water... as always, the guidelines are for our own good. 

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1 hour ago, Reader said:

The Washington Times is a politically conservative paper founded by Sun Myung Moon. He was a Korean religious leader who believed God chose him as a savior for mankind. He was the head of the unification church.  The article referenced was indeed an opinion piece. The GB suggests we be careful about the news sources we read. There is a lot of misinformation out there. All I'm saying is to be careful.

I’m sorry 😞 

I shouldn’t post it then in first place

please forgive me.

moderation can erase it

because I’m not able to do it now 😞🥺


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Eph. 3:20 “Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us, do more than superabundantly beyond all the things we ask or conceive”

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20 minutes ago, Sofia said:

I’m sorry 😞 

I shouldn’t post it then in first place

please forgive me.

moderation can erase it

because I’m not able to do it now 😞🥺

 

I don't see anything wrong with it.  Opinion articles can be useful, because just their very existence can influence and sway people.  It's good to be aware of.

 

And just because a news source leans one way doesn't automatically make it misinformation.  The caution to "be careful" is just that...be careful.  Be cognizant of the fact that news agencies, no matter how accurate they tend to be, are rewarded for being first & fast & for keeping your attention.  So always take anything you read/hear in the news with a grain of salt.  Don't blindly trust one source and blindly reject another.  As we're seeing come to light, it looks like the US was involved with destroying the Nord Stream pipeline.  But one particular news source was villainized for even suggesting the US was the source.   

 

But again, news influences people.  Knowing what is being talked about is quite important and valuable.  Anytime we see anything sensational, our knee-jerk reaction should be to dig deeper (if it's worth even caring about).  Which is why I looked for the source of the first article and found the Washington Times connection.  And then the Fox News article.  This idea, even if blown out of proportion & sensationalized, is starting to spread.  To me, that's important to know.

 

Some see this as a distraction....Jehovah's day will come when it comes.  Keeping up with this stuff won't make it come any sooner.  Others enjoy seeing the show and how things play out...and are encouraged to hang on because we can see it's just around the corner.  Both views are opinions, and neither is right or wrong.  But always remember to be balanced either way.

 

In any case, reminders about being careful are definitely warranted and should be posted regularly.  Doesn't mean you did something wrong or that there's something that needs censoring.

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6 hours ago, Sofia said:

Published today:

U.N. poised to attack religion, church, Bible in looming LGBTQ study

The United Nations Human Rights Council is poised to prepare and release a report on the “perceived contradictions” between the LGBTQ agenda and religious teachings. In other words: Here come the global attacks on biblical teachings and truths.

 

source: https://headtopics.com/us/u-n-poised-to-attack-religion-church-bible-in-looming-lgbtq-study-35210550

 

( original article is pre paid at Washington Times)

Interesting. 

I know it will happen very soon. 

 


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43 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

No matter what, keep up the good work sis.

Im so upset brother Glen that Im eating chocolate right now ... 😢 

Eph. 3:20 “Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us, do more than superabundantly beyond all the things we ask or conceive”

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2 hours ago, Reader said:

The Washington Times is a politically conservative paper founded by Sun Myung Moon. He was a Korean religious leader who believed God chose him as a savior for mankind. He was the head of the unification church.  The article referenced was indeed an opinion piece. The GB suggests we be careful about the news sources we read. There is a lot of misinformation out there. All I'm saying is to be careful.

just out of curiosity as a swede,

do friends in the u.s. have more confidence in left wing/liberal/socialistic news media than in conservative/right wing?

 

 


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3 minutes ago, jps said:

just out of curiosity as a swede,

do friends in the u.s. have more confidence in left wing/liberal/socialistic news media than in conservative?

 

I think it depends on where you are in the US.  But in reality, we shouldn't have more confidence in one over the other.  The US is highly polarized and conservatives are being demonized by the mainstream media.  The only source for absolute truth is Jehovah's organization.  That being the case, certain recent ideas promoted by conservatives & the extreme right have been proven wrong and misleading.  With that fact, the right is now naturally less-trusted for news & information.

 

"Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me."

 

The problem with that is then we miss when they are true and accurate and in our best interest.  Which is why I go back to what I say in that we should all be careful and mindful of the news we watch, no matter the source.

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When expression "attack" is being used in relation to religion and other controversial issues, please bear in mind that this is already happening, and really it's happening for the past few years.

Voices of "attack" or opposition against religions who reject LGBTQ, are sounded louder and louder.

What is really interesting to see is that some religions are absorbing and caving in to tolerate LGBTQ movements, while others are still firmly rejecting it. And those different standards are noticed by various governmental institutions.

We know how this ends when real physical attack begins against Babylon the Great.  

 

Man was created as an intelligent creature with the desire to explore and understand :)

 

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1 minute ago, New World Explorer said:

really it's happening for the past few years.

 

Like boiling a frog in a pot.  That's why some will miss it!  :wink:

 

2 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Voices of "attack" or opposition against religions who reject LGBTQ, are sounded louder and louder.

 

That's the key!  That's why I'm very much interested in articles like that.  Opinion or not.  Left or right.  The more we hear about it, the more this idea might take hold...

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More possibly, the GB and the organization will make an article about that sooner IF that scenario happen and if it takes the attention of worldwide media and governments.

 

What will be the title of that Keep on the Watch article?

 

Would it be like this?

 

Homosexuality Rights Movements—What does the Bible Say?

 

United Nations Preparing to Attack Religions—What does the Bible Say?

 

🫢😅

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1 hour ago, jps said:

just out of curiosity as a swede,

do friends in the u.s. have more confidence in left wing/liberal/socialistic news media than in conservative/right wing?

 

 

Witnesses in the US? Or people in general?  Because the answer may not be the same. 

 

There are a lot of people in general who only listen to news outlets that promote or conform to their way of thinking.  Even with the news people like to have their ears tickled.  So, right wing conservatives prefer right wing conservative news outlets such as Fox News.  Left wing liberals prefer left wing liberal news outlets such as CNN.  

 

Some, a healthy minority, prefer more so-called neutral news outlets like PBS or NPR (both of these are publicly funded and do not use commercial advertising to fund their programming). 

 

A growing fringe minority are not satisfied with mainstream media, so they seek out extreme fringe news sources.  These people also prefer to have their ears tickled and desperately seek news sources that confirm their more radical or reactionary leanings.  Such ones will state they do not trust the mainstream media and come across as believing everything in the mainstream media is a lie. 

 

Ultimately facts are facts.  Country X is at war with country Y. This plane crashed, that train derailed. Etc...  Those are indisputable facts.  Bias, spin, and political leaning comes into play in explaining the reason for the war or the cause of the plane crash or who is responsible for the train derailment. 

 

Politics and personal bias also factors in on Opinion pieces.  Nothing wrong with opinion pieces.  All news outlets have them.  The difficulty is when those opinions are presented, accepted, and believed as fact. 


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8 hours ago, zoebarry said:


Well, Germany and China are calling for a full investigation now....

 

https://rmx.news/article/crisis-for-germany-and-us-afd-party-calls-for-investigation-after-bombshell-report-details-how-us-allegedly-blew-up-nord-stream-pipelines/

 

“Following a report that the United States bombed Germany’s Nord Stream gas pipelines from one of the most renowned journalists in the U.S., Germany’s Alternative for Germany (AfD) party is calling for an investigation into the new allegations.“

 

 

l've not heard of Germany's Alternative for Germany. So, I looked them up ...

 

Apparently, they don't think Hitler or the Nazi's did much damage either. Hmmm

 

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In early June 2018, Gauland, who was the party's parliamentary group leader, triggered outrage across the country when he trivialized the Nazi dictatorship and the Holocaust. Speaking at a party event, he said that "Hitler and the Nazis were no more than a speck of bird's $#/& in over 1,000 years of successful history."

 And they have 13% support.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germanys-far-right-afd-marks-10-years-since-its-founding/a-64607308

 

I don't think I would call that "Germany", but rather "a fringe political group in Germany".

 

All that said.... Investigate away .... But we all know the 2 horned lamb that speaks like the dragon and misleads many because it performs powerful signs (Rev 13) will NOT be be held to account (if it did does these things - hey, we all know it and all the governments of the world are owned and operated by the their ruler the Devil) - until Jehovah's final judgement at Armageddon along with all these other governments.


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Plan ahead as if Armageddon will not come in your lifetime, but lead your life as if it will come tomorrow (w 2004 Dec. 1 page 29)

 

 

 

 

Soon .....

 

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I'm sorry I mentioned anything about the Washington Times opinion piece. Saying it was a conservative paper was in no way a political commentary, just an observation. It's good to know the leaning of any media outlets since they can be biased in their reporting. If my comments upset some, I apologize. I was making a general statement of the importance of doing research about any reporting agency and care needs to be taken. I will be more cautious in the future so as not to offend anyone or cause undue distress. Again, my apologies.

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On 2/10/2023 at 4:45 AM, Leonard Match Valid said:

I don't know..... I found this article in French


follows what the UN president said:


As the "risks of escalation" in Ukraine increase, the world is heading "with eyes wide open" to "a wider war," the UN secretary-general was alarmed Monday in a particularly somber speech presenting his priorities for 2023.

War in Ukraine, climate crisis, extreme poverty... "We begin the year 2023 with our eyes set on a convergence of challenges never seen in our lifetime," António Guterres declared before the UN General Assembly.

According to the scientists who manage the doomsday clock, humanity has never been so close to its end, now with 90 seconds to midnight , he reminded, seeing this as an alarm signal.

"We need to wake up and get to work," he insisted, listing the urgent issues for 2023.

At the top of that list is the war in Ukraine .


https://www.ledevoir.com/monde/780695/le-monde-se-dirige-vers-une-guerre-plus-large-s-alarme-le-chef-de-l-onu
 

A lot of people know that war is a business. I dont know If I ever believe him or them, since Antonio is  chief/representative of UN?

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I don't know if it's because I'm outside the US or have confounded the site with my VPN, but I am able to access the whole Washington Post column without a subscription.

Regardless of what its political leanings are, because I'm not only ignorant of them, I'm also less than interested,  I found the last paragraph interesting, in as much it seems that even worldly people are recognising that religion is in for a big fall, albeit unaware of the full manifestation of what is coming.

 

It says:

The words may be careful, the rhetoric may be couched, the lingo may be classic global bureau-speak, but you can bet the message in June from this HRC report will contain this marching order: Go forth and destroy the church. Go forth and destroy religious freedom. The battle plan will be to decry godly truths as discriminatory until the godly are stifled, silenced or pushed into the minority.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/feb/9/un-poised-to-attack-religion-church-bible-in-loomi/?utm_source=headtopics&utm_medium=news&utm_campaign=2023-02-10

Don't give up .. it's just around the corner.

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10 hours ago, trottigy said:

And they have 13% support.

That's a healthy amount of support for a fringe group. 

 

10 hours ago, trottigy said:

All that said.... Investigate away .... But we all know the 2 horned lamb that speaks like the dragon and misleads many because it performs powerful signs (Rev 13) will NOT be be held to account

And even if they did blow up the pipeline (it's quite possible), what will it matter in the end?  Global opinion is holding Russia in condemnation.  

 

Most likely any investigation of the United States by US allies will support the US narrative. 

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Brothers,

 

Let us all remember that political issues are part of this political system.

 

Let's not be distracted about political issues regarding KOTS or KOTN.

 

Whether it was intended or not intended, we know that it is not important to us.

 

Oh, my dear brothers and sisters, let's keep on the watch, and stay focused on our hope.

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I have talked to many people who are a part of the LGB.... movement. I fully understand their concern. I have tried to help them understand that they have free will to practice any form of inter-relationships. I explain to them, that as Jehovah's Witnesses, we do practice any form of prejudice or judgment against anyone. We do not practice these forms of relationships, but we respect them as human beings. Perhaps, they despise religion in general because other so-called religions (Babylon the Great) treat them as if they are less than "human." As Jesus commanded, "You must love our neighbors as ourselves." (Matthew 22:39)

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