China experience...WOW

[Bluebell]

{{ It has been determined that this unverified experience is NOT true. - Bob }}

 

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The below experience came from Brother Brian Burke (USA)

 

We had Brother Petit give our talk today. He lives locally, but was a missionary in Japan for years and one of his sons still serves at Bethel. He told us an interesting experience/account that he just heard from his son.

 It was this: You know our new printing presses that print our magazines at that astronomical rate (like 200K an hour) and are at the Japan, Canada and German branches, well the Chinese government has one too.

 

Theirs broke.

 

They called the German company that made the press and found out that the company had gone out of business and couldn't provide any technical support. They suggested that the JWs in Japan had a printer and might be able to help. So, the Chinese government called the Branch in Japan and 3 brothers went to China to lend a hand. Of course, they knew what was wrong and fixed it.

 

 

The Chinese government was so impressed and grateful they said they wanted to do something for the brothers. The brothers said they could legalize JW to organize freely in China.

 

The Chinese government said, of course, that it couldn't do that because by law the heads of all national organizations had to be appointed by the communist party.

 

BUT, they said, they would lift the ban on JW.org. WHAT?!?! Yes, now JW.ORG is legal in China. I instantly started crying and wanted to break out clapping. How fantastic is that? I wonder who broke that press?..

Edited December 24, 2013 by Dismal_Bliss

[stuagu]

brilliant!

[mkpeeters]

You can test and see if a site is censored in China: http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/

 

 

regards

Mk

[Qapla]

At this point it still appears to be blocked ... but, if we continue to check each day, who knows

[Kim]

Yes, still blocked.  Hope they stick to their word.

[Kim]

Such an AMAZING story!

[Bluebell]

read what the email actually says:

 

"BUT, they said, they would lift the ban on JW.org."

 

 

so hopefully they keep their word!

Edited December 18, 2013 by Samira

[rocket]

If it is Jehovah's will, it will happen.

[Buttons]

There is a Chinese group in a college town 25 miles east of where I live.  One pioneer brother in the group has SIX Chinese studies.  I can't wait to tell him the news.

[SUNRAY]

If it is Jehovah's will, it will happen.

Yes. I agree..Jehovah certainly lives up to his name!

[Shawnster]

read what the email actually says:

 

"BUT, they said, they would lift the ban on JW.org."

 

 

so hopefully they keep their word!

 

We want to be careful about posting unverified emails or circulating them as fact.  This may be true, hopefully is true, but we don't know the veracity of this right now.

[Bluebell]

We want to be careful about posting unverified emails or circulating them as fact.  This may be true, hopefully is true, but we don't know the veracity of this right now.

 

we received this from a sister in Australia we know well,

also from a well known reliable brother in California,

as well from a CO serving in New York.

None of them are known for sending hoaxes, but we still are trying to check it out.

[LeslieDean]

So happy to hear this!  My son (who is not interested but respectful of my beliefs) lives in Shenzhen, China with his wife Jane and my two baby granddaughters!  I will be in contact via Skype to visit with them.  She attended a meeting with me when they were visiting Aug 2012.  I had a talk the night she visited.  Guess what my talk was about?  The setting was about a sister who was crying to me about her two very young nieces who would be returning to a country where the witnessing work was under ban!  My householder was distraught because she was extremely anxious about who would preach and let her young nieces know about Jehovah if she was not there to do so?  She went on to say that there was so much to learn and she only had 2 weeks to teach them and was afraid once they returned home there would be no one there to continues.  I choose this setting because of my circumstances.  I also asked Jane if she would be kind enough to "help" me prepare my talk and then practice it with me.  Well yes she would.  Just her upbringing will not allow her to say no to a request from her elders. (smile)  So I used several scriptures about the good news must be preached and ties it in to if we are not their for our families--we have other brothers and sisters who are.  In return, we must be out and preaching to help our brothers and sisters who have their families over here with us!  It is about being available and using every opportunity.  It has just registered in my narrow little mind (when my son moved to China in 2005)  that I NEED my brothers and sisters help over there to reach my children!  So now I look at people as being relatives of our brothers and sisters and it makes it so much more enjoyable than thinking of them as strangers!  I hope this was not to confusing for you to sort out.  I am just overwhelmed with this news!!!!!

Edited December 18, 2013 by LeslieDean

[trottigy]

Thanks Samira - that's awesome!!

[Qapla]

I did a simple Google search for Jehovah's Witnesses and tested some of the obvious anti-witness URLs .... big surprise - they ALL had this result "All servers were able to reach your site. This means that your site should be accessible from within mainland China"
 
However, www.jw.org is still blocked
 
This forum, on the other hand, IS available in China according to that test site

Edited December 18, 2013 by Qapla

[Shawnster]

we received this from a sister in Australia we know well,

also from a well known reliable brother in California,

as well from a CO serving in New York.

None of them are known for sending hoaxes, but we still are trying to check it out.

Who did she receive it from?

Look, I'm not trying to disparage anyone out call any brother or sister into doubt. We have been counseled about spreading information that we can't verify. Unless anyone knows the brother named at the end of the email, this is second or third hands information.

The reason I'm urging caution is this:I saw this information on Facebook YESTERDAY and it wasn't from a sister in Australia that i heard it from. This is really going around and being spread fast.

I hope it is true. I'm not saying it's false. I'm saying we don't know and can't verify it. But it is interesting.

[Bluebell]

interesting that www.watchtower.org is also available in China

which goes automatically into  www.jw.org

[Qapla]

It may be true that www.watchtower.org shows as working in China on the test site and that when WE use that URL we are directed to www.jw.org However, that does not mean that it does the same thing in China.

 

It is possible that the redirect is blocked and anyone using the watchtower URL to bypass the firewall may just get an error message when they try it.

 

Since I am not in China and do not have direct contact with anyone there I cannot say for sure one way or the other. Like Shawn said, let's be careful about how we use this information until it can be verified or shows up on jw.org

Edited December 18, 2013 by Qapla

[Bluebell]

Please then can one of the moderators delete this topic.

I need to stop adding stuff to this forum........

[Áine]

Please then can one of the moderators delete this topic.

I need to stop adding stuff to this forum........

just give it a while Samira, it doesn't mean that it's not true sometimes things don't happen quickly. :-)

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[LeslieDean]

Would you like me to ask my son to try and access it from Shenzhen?

[Miss Bea]

I know a brother who conducts a study from this country with a Chinese speaking person. He can't be unique. He does this via skype. Maybe someone else out there can check from inside China. My suspicions are is that everything is a process. And processes take time and approval. You know what is said about good intentions.....

[mkpeeters]

Indeed the best thing is to check from within China. Then again it might depend on location since it takes time for the DNS servers to refresh. Here is an other one which might use different servers http://viewdns.info/

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[trottigy]

Would you like me to ask my son to try and access it from Shenzhen?

 

Please do. This is such a great experience. I want it to be true  

 

And thanks again for sharing it  

[SUNRAY]

Please do. This is such a great experience. I want it to be true

And thanks again for sharing it

The FDS may want to "trim" jw.org for China...Also Chinese leaders have to OK it probably!
Edited December 18, 2013 by SUNRAY