Russia invades Ukraine

[Paulo]

1 hour ago, Osprey said:

Hm yes, but based on my experiences with refugees from Ukraine they do it on the basis of valid Ukrainian documents. Poland said they will start to deport them if they don't have valid Ukrainian documents. In Poland there are reportedly 200.000 men of such age that Ukraine wants to have them back...

 

Under the UN convention on refugees, host countries have to issue identification and travel papers to stateless refugees, and that is what all this men will become when their papers expire.

 

As in other things Poland and other countries related, we need to separate government action from individual persons intention.

[New World Explorer]

2 minutes ago, Paulo said:

Under the UN convention on refugees, host countries have to issue identification and travel papers to stateless refugees, and that is what all this men will become when their papers expire.

There is big difference between status of refugee and displaced person.

So depends how Poland wants to interpret the definition. 

Poland has suggested it will help transfer Ukrainian men of fighting age back to their homeland, as Kyiv seeks to shore up its depleted armed forces...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/25/poland-deport-ukraine-conscription-russia-war/

 

A stateless person is not considered a national of any country. A refugee is someone who has fled their country to escape conflict or persecution and has crossed an international border. While most refugees have a nationality, a person can be both stateless and a refugee.

[Korotkiy]

A next step (with next blablabla) to "peace and security" will be in Switzerland on 15–16 June 2024:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2024_Ukraine_peace_summit

 

But! seems like the Russia is isterically afraid of this event.

 

We are do filling it with catastropfic airstrikes over all the Ukraine, espeссially in Kharkiv that is the second by population city in Ukraine (in about a 70 km from Russia.) 

 

They have a lot of cheap Soviet bombs about 500 kg.

Russians improved them with a cheap GPS air planning block and just sending bombs from Russia territory. The bombs are just planning about a 70 km.

 

Then they are destroying the civil infrastructure. 

Recently a trade market has got an ainmed attack with many victims...

 

Sadly but many brothers recently had returned from abroad and other regions of Ukraine because tired and have no money to rent....     

Edited May 27 by Korotkiy

[Sofia]

This stupid war is another Devil´s doing.

Some say that new F16 airplanes will arrive to Ukraine in June. Maybe it will be helpful to cope with the bombings?

Long range missiles may be able to wreck the sources of these attacts in russian territory?

Russia is arguing that now that Ukraine is using NATO missiles to atack Russian territory, NATO is already engaged in war with Russia. This World is truly insane ruled by demons.

The peace summit wont lead to any peace agreement because Russia wont be there. 

Any Resolution developed wont do any good on the field.

Meanwhile its being said that diplomatic staff from Ukraine is doing the best to develop agreements of peace with Russian Diplomats.

Maybe soon this conflict will be frozen?

I wish that it comes to an end very soon.

It´s HURTING a lot of people, specially  Jehovah´s people  

[Korotkiy]

Just for update as far as i know no one brother from Ukraine who has baptized before war has been inprisoned.

In a news I have heard about one.

But according to a news report he had broked a law about war and then about a year has been baptized.

He has got a 3 years prizon. Despite of a document from Bethel.

[Korotkiy]

Thank you dear, dear sister Sofia.

Some from us recently had hoped that this war will stopped soon.

But currently most of us are understanding that the war will be on years and years - and currently there is no way to finish this conflict. 

Now it is a war of attrition. I has been surprised - why all the Ukraine KHs has got an expencive generators, decpite no power problems in most places.

Now all the Ukraine cool and hydro power plants are destroyed or damaged (only nuclear has no damages) and we see with fair to winter - but do understand that all our KHs will have power.

My hard work as an electric KH volunteer to make a generators connectivity  in my KH and anothers KHs has finally having sence. This was really the hand of Jehovah.

 

Hope that the Kingdom of Jesus or some unexpected political event finish it (not looking at the moment)...

Edited May 27 by Korotkiy

[Korotkiy]

The last Putin`s visit to the China probably is showing who probably might be a next KH. (If the system will be a next 20 years)

 

All the detals during this visit had showed that the Putin is a lower but a Ci is a higher -  began of a some an official woman had meet him on a plane (in a estern counrty), despite of high officials or ever Ci usually are meeting a heads of states.

 

Putin had grovelled under Chi and Russian Foreign Secretary of Putin called him as a Chi`s donkey in an interview.

Everything had shown here an total abasement of Russia.
All the China social networks has picked those offencive mems decpite of hard China censorship - so it is an offical Chine politic to humiliate Russia. 

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Edited May 27 by Korotkiy

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, Korotkiy said:

some unexpected political event finish

Maybe something unexpected happens to Putin, overthrowing him out of his power...

Let´s keep on the watch. Great Tribulation doesnt seem too far away, not 20 years. I hope not.

Things can change suddenly. Iran´s president is dead. Suddenly. Ok. The regime hasnt changed. But could have changed.

I have faith that Putin ´s regime wont last much longer.

I pray for all Ukrainian and Russian dearest brothers and sisters to endure and to be safe. May the Angels protect ALL of you. ❤️ 

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, Korotkiy said:

The last Putin`s visit to the China probably is showing who probably might be a next KH. (If the system will be a next 20 years)

 

All the detals during this visit had showed that the Putin is a lower but a Ci is a higher -  began of a some an official woman had meet him on a plane (in a estern counrty), despite of high officials or ever Ci usually are meeting a heads of states.

 

Putin had grovelled under Chi and Russian Foreign Secretary of Putin called him as a Chi`s donkey in an interview.

Everything had shown here an total abasement of Russia.
All the China social networks has picked those offencive mems decpite of hard China censorship - so it is an offical Chine politic to humiliate Russia. 

. 

 

Russia and China need each other. They will not be the last superpower. The Anglo-American power will be the last one.

[LeolaRootStew]

1 hour ago, Dustparticle said:

 

Russia and China need each other. They will not be the last superpower. The Anglo-American power will be the last one.

 

Russia and China do not want to rule the world, they just don't want to be ruled by the West. Anglo-America will be the last world power, but we don't know what that will look like - they could be just a figurehead by the end. Their military capacity has been shown to be far weaker than it used to be, and they're running on fumes and empty threats at this point. 

 

If The West keeps supplying Ukraine weapons this war will go on for years; if they stop, so does the war. I don't have any particular desire for either direction because prophecy must be fulfilled and we don't know what outcome will lead to the GT. I will just pray that Jehovah gives His people endurance, wisdom, and comfort 💜.

[hatcheckgirl]

Yes, my dear friends in Russia and Ukraine, we always keep you in our prayers. Jehovah will help you endure 🌹 We have strong faith based on a real hope that you will all make it with Jehovah’s help, no matter how bad it gets. Even with conditions being so dire, Jehovah gives us the resurrection hope that totally smashes Satan’s ability to wreck havoc in our lives. I keep you dear friends in my heart and prayers 💞🌺

[Osprey]

More and more countries (including USA) are allowing Ukraine to strike inside Russia with their advanced weapons. Some limited area to north of Kharkiv, some don't give any limitations at all anymore. France is sending military "instructors" inside Ukraine. Russia is of course angry and increases sabre-rattling.

Trajectory of this conflict: still more and more escalation. If trajectory will not be changed, the whole world may come into big trouble. The only question is how far will Jehovah allow this to go?

Edited May 31 by Osprey

[Lee49]

52 minutes ago, Osprey said:

The only question is how far will Jehovah allow this to go?

When you look at WW2 's history  with all  of the deaths and destruction that occured, it makes one wonder how far things will go and now how many more nations have nuclear capability. -

 "On 6 and 9 August 1945, the United States detonated two atomic bombs over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombings killed between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians, and remain the only use of nuclear weapons in an armed conflict."

Just 2 examples, there are non nuclear weapons today that are very devastating, known as a thermobaric weapon.

 So yes, I think we have all wondered " how long", oh Jehovah?

[Korotkiy]

Update.

 

We are hoping that this conflict will finished soon.

Our congregation is in a relatively safe region.

 

Despite the fact that at the beginning of the war we had in a dangerous region (500 kg bombs has been hit about a 500m from my house), but now no incoming missigles here in about a year, sometimes (very rarely) we a hearing air-defence explosions.

 

In general life in our region is as there is no war here.

 

Hovewer some wives and children from our families has been moved abroad at the beginning of the war and we see a 4nd reason of separate live.

 

We have 3 families - 2 ministery servants and one elder, which families are abroad, but husbands are here.

We have heard at least 3 signals during our conrgesses and conventions to unite those a families but no move has here.

 

But the life abroad is too fine comparely to life in the Ukraine

E.g. one wife with children is living in UK and had dreaming about it all the life but his husband elder is living in Ukraine and cannot leave it during the end of war  

 

Another familiy dream to move abroad before war, but now wife don`t see any life in Ukraine, but husband cannot move abroad till the end of war...

 

We saw another problem because wife is fine abroad but the husband have a trouble with emotional connention with a some sister here.

This is rather an exceptions, most families are here or abroad in full count...

 

Many families has decided to stay together but moving to a safely redions of Ukraine.

Edited May 31 by Korotkiy

[Korotkiy]

Ukrainian border has been closed for man 18-60 who have no disabilities or 3 children from first 6 hours of war till now.

Some brothers who have disability relatives moved with them abroad and relatives then went back.

They might have a problem with a law now.

 

[Korotkiy]

20 hours ago, Lee49 said:

When you look at WW2 's history  with all  of the deaths and destruction that occured, it makes one wonder how far things will go and now how many more nations have nuclear capability. -

 "On 6 and 9 August 1945, the United States detonated two atomic bombs over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombings killed between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians, and remain the only use of nuclear weapons in an armed conflict."

Just 2 examples, there are non nuclear weapons today that are very devastating, known as a thermobaric weapon.

 So yes, I think we have all wondered " how long", oh Jehovah?

 

According to the last understanding of Revelation 13;13 the only kingdom mentioned as "making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind." - as we have last undrstanding is US: 

 

Daniel mentions something similar, namely, that the Anglo-American World Power would “bring terrible destruction.” (Dan. 8:19, 23, 24, ftn.) That is exactly what happened during World War II. The two atomic bombs that played a decisive role in ending that war in the Pacific were the results of a joint effort by British and American scientists. The Anglo-American World Power, in effect, made “fire come down out of heaven to the earth.”

WT 05 2000 

 

So I hope the only one combat nuclear hit in all the devil`s world history will be Кhirosima/Nagasaki.

As all the modern bombs/rockets are hundreds and thousands more times powerful then Khirosima.

 

Khirosima`s 31 kilotonns nowadays is just a tactical missigle, 1200 kilotonns are in USA army at the moment, 56000 Kt was a heaviest bomb exploded as a test. 

 

Interesting that Russia in the beginning at the war, when they saw that no chances to quick victory, has plans to hit Yavoriv military training field by a tactical class nuclear missigle as a intimidation.

 

We have heard many many signals about a nuclear hit from Russia but at some moment they has suddenly stopped and we are never heard about those threats again from Russia`s oficcials.

 

We had asking ourselves why?

 

Now there is information in open sources that US has clearly informed Russia that then they will using ever tactical nuclear weapons then all they conventional troops and fleets in Ukraine and Crimea will be destroyed by US non-nuclear air rockets.

 

I have heard tat time that one US oficcial mentioned that all the Crimea Russian fleet can be destroyed by US B2 Spirit air bomber from Mediterranean See.

 

By the way, currently most of this fleet has already been destroyed by cheap Ukrainian sea drons and rockets and (recently) using NATO missigles. Russian air-defence forces are helpless from NATO rockets.

Edited June 1 by Korotkiy

[Korotkiy]

From other hand, brothers and sisters who lives under NATO umbrellas as in Kiev, where Patriots hits 100% missigles - are in relative safe. We do hoping to Jehovah, but if more cities will be closed, more brothers will have safe.

[hatcheckgirl]

Thank you so much for your updates, brother 

[Sofia]

4 hours ago, Korotkiy said:

I hope the only one combat nuclear hit in all the devil`s world history will be Кhirosima/Nagasaki.

As all the modern bombs/rockets are hundreds and thousands more times powerful then Khirosima.

Yes

i also believe the same

no nucs 

[Sofia]

A new law, introduced in May, requires every man aged between 25 and 60 to log their details on an electronic database so they can be called up. Conscription officers are on the hunt for those avoiding the register, pushing more men who do not want to serve into hiding.
 

serious troubles for men in Ukraine 😢

 

source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz994d6vqe5o
 

[Mike047]

Our younger brothers - and sisters -  in every country, should be aware of the possibility of such a callup procedure, and prepare now so they may give answer to the authorities. We are not cowards, who hide, but we are confident that Jehovah will give us the spirit to stand firm.

[Sofia]

Now dear brothers in Ukraine 

You see the foresee from the branch to equip each KH with a strong generator.

 

https://kyivindependent.com/grid-operator-lengthy-power-outages-expected-until-end-of-july/

[Sofia]

 

According to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Russia has destroyed half of Ukraine's energy capacity by intensifying attacks. Zelensky called on Thursday for the installation of solar panels and energy storage units "in all schools and hospitals as quickly as possible."
 

Ukrainian branch had prevented this.

We are always protected when we obey GB instructions 

[Korotkiy]

Hello,

Regarding a new law = our brothers of course following Rom 13:1 and are updating their personal data.

I`m visiting military office as well and I`m in a queue here with my brothers (Its a problem to finishing all the documents about a month) 

In our territory military officers mostly just taking official document from the Bethel and kindly give a status "temporarily deregistered" till a next document shiuld be updated once a year.

Hovewer in another parts of Ukraine where almost all the man are avoiding military service the situation is much more dangerous. Military service officials who are rotating from the line of fire in ussually have post-traumatic syndrome, injuries ( we certainly feel sorry for such people ) and they are very nervous when they see many healthy young men on a streets.

My familiar brother on West has been forcelly deployed to a war camp and forced to wear military uniform and sign in military docs but after 2 weeks they has just let him go home.

  

[Korotkiy]

Many of mans are escape from official jobs because job officials must to give employee  referral to the military office. No variants.

So that the labor market is looking emptier and our brothers in general less a problem with a work.

Edited June 23 by Korotkiy