JW Broadcast - November 2023

[LeolaRootStew]

2 minutes ago, Bosko said:

So what is the difference between this link and this one:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioMonthlyPrograms/pub-jwb-090_1_VIDEO

Or this one:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=C&lank=pub-jwb-090_1_VIDEO

Or this one:

https://www.jw.org/download/?output=html&pub=jwb-090&langwritten=E

 

All have the same code, have "jw.org".

So why some of friends here say that one link is official and some are not.

 

 

how do you find that third link from the website? where do i click?

[jwhess]

8 minutes ago, Bosko said:

Thank you brother John for that wonderful explenation.

So what is the difference between this link and this one:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioMonthlyPrograms/pub-jwb-090_1_VIDEO

Or this one:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=C&lank=pub-jwb-090_1_VIDEO

Or this one:

https://www.jw.org/download/?output=html&pub=jwb-090&langwritten=E

 

All have the same code, have "jw.org".

So why some of friends here say that one link is official and some are not.

 

 

Some brothers only consider a thumbnail or icon on the JW.ORG site to be an "official" connection.  The fact that the organization posts things (videos, files, etc) on their servers using the "official" jw.org URL does not seem to impress them.

[Maris]

On 11/4/2023 at 3:49 AM, Rodejong said:

That is not why I make lists. I am a list freak. I make lists of everything

Am impressed. I like the idea of making lists. Helps one keep track of things. Possible to share your compilation? Thanks

[Paulo]

13 minutes ago, Bosko said:

So what is the difference between this link

 

All links are jw.org links and content but not all are allowed in this forum policy.

 

The difference is what you need to type in the address bar to reach that link.

Some links are obtained after you type jw.org and then navigate on the website.

Other links you need to input extra parameters in the address site to access the content.

 

So, as a resume, if you need type something extra to jw.org to find the content in the first place, then there is a chance that it could be against the forum policy and even upset some members.

Is better to ask first if one is uncertain

 

[jayrtom]

2 hours ago, Rodejong said:

Exactly.

I find it disrespectful and selfish.

 

Br, on the contrary! If soeone shouts that the link is available is not to be regarded as the first one or the best or the one that got there first... Its just out of unselfish reason let others know that they can watch the program as soon as they want it to. It's not like they have something that you don't' have, because it's ther for everyone that wants to see it. Everyone, not a select few

A select few indeed had the priviledge to watch it sooner than the rest, back in October,  but we didn't got upset because of that did we? Why being so upset for one thing that is absolutely a no ussue. If you want to see it right now, just see it (lot's of brothers have offered you that opportunity and I'm doing it too)

If you don't want to see it why bother with the ones that want it?

[Dages]

It's more about being a "public" link, that we can find through browsing the website naturally, or not (only through mining the website using uncommon web addresses).

 

Basically, rule of thumb, it's "public" when you can see it in JWLIB

 

So, if it's not public, don't post it here.

Edited November 6, 2023 by Dages

[jwhess]

45 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

can you explain that process? i would like to see that (not for the annual meeting, but for some stuff in 2013). 

I did not keep any URLs from that far back.  Sorry.

[jwhess]

14 minutes ago, Dages said:

It's more about being a "public" link, that we can find through browsing the website naturally, or not (only through mining the website using uncommon web addresses).

 

Basically, rule of thumb, it's "public" when you can see it in JWLIB

I am sure that explanation is the reason for some objections.  But in the normal course of events on this forum, when a person is trying to find a video or picture from the past, and asks for help, the respondent gives them the URL to go and find the item.

 

Why does the average person accept the URL if it is more than 1 day old but not before?

 

It isn't "secret" or "mined" tomorrow, why is it considered unscriptural today?

 

Let each one work on their own salvation without criticizing others.

 

 

[carlos]

7 hours ago, jwhess said:

Why does the average person accept the URL if it is more than 1 day old but not before?

It isn't "secret" or "mined" tomorrow, why is it considered unscriptural today?

 

For a long time our policy was that everything that is on the public side of JW.org is public. They never store anything confidential on the public side of the server.

 

However, posting links to videos or publications before they were officially released on the website or on the JW Library app has caused some members trouble with inflexible individuals who tried to force their own rules on others. So in the end we decided not to allow links to unreleased material. Once the material is released, links are fine.

 

 

8 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

can you explain that process? i would like to see that (not for the annual meeting, but for some stuff in 2013). 

 

If you go to JW.org, find the previous broadcastings and click on share, these are the links you obtain:

 

August 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-101_1_VIDEO

 

September 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-102_1_VIDEO

 

October 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-106_1_VIDEO

 

So you can enter the same URL increasing the number (107, 108...) until you find the current video. It is usually stored there a few hours before it appears on JW.org, basically the time it takes for the videos in all languages to get copied.

 

If you are really obsessed you can spend the whole night checking and checking the URLs with those numbers until something appears. That's what some members here do. I have better things to do at night, but to each their own.

 

 

7 hours ago, jwhess said:

Let each one work on their own salvation without criticizing others.

 

Amen!

[LeolaRootStew]

41 minutes ago, jwhess said:

Why does the average person accept the URL if it is more than 1 day old but not before?

 

It isn't "secret" or "mined" tomorrow, why is it considered unscriptural today?

 

Let each one work on their own salvation without criticizing others.

I think because JW.org says this:

 

You may not:

• Misuse the website or its services, such as interfering with or accessing the website or its services using a method other than what is explicitly provided.

While I agree you guys aren't hurting anyone, I think it's also reasonable for people to interpret this method as using something other than what is "explicitly provided". 

 

(just please don't post spoilers because you saw it 5hrs early 😂)

[Sofia]

6 hours ago, carlos said:

 

For a long time our policy was that everything that is on the public side of JW.org is public. They never store anything confidential on the public side of the server.

 

However, posting links to videos or publications before they were officially released on the website or on the JW Library app has caused some members trouble with inflexible individuals who tried to force their own rules on others. So in the end we decided not to allow links to unreleased material. Once the material is released, links are fine.

 

 

 

If you go to JW.org, find the previous broadcastings and click on share, these are the links you obtain:

 

August 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-101_1_VIDEO

 

September 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-102_1_VIDEO

 

October 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-106_1_VIDEO

 

So you can enter the same URL increasing the number (107, 108...) until you find the current video. It is usually stored there a few hours before it appears on JW.org, basically the time it takes for the videos in all languages to get copied.

 

If you are really obsessed you can spend the whole night checking and checking the URLs with those numbers until something appears. That's what some members here do. I have better things to do at night, but to each their own.

 

 

 

Amen!

Now the mistery is all gone @carlos 🤣🤣 spoiler! 🤣🤣

[MikeyRo]

17 minutes ago, carlos said:

So you can enter the same URL increasing the number (107, 108...) until you find the current video. It is usually stored there a few hours before it appears on JW.org, basically the time it takes for the videos in all languages to get copied

The Finder method doesn't work until the video is visible on JW.org. You still need the GetPubMediaLinks URL to access the files on the CDN before they are indexed within the JW.org CMS. Of course anyone with some basic HTML knowledge can figure out how it works by using the View Source feature in the browser and searching for "getpubmedialinks". It's there in plain sight.

[Landon1285]

6 hours ago, carlos said:

 

For a long time our policy was that everything that is on the public side of JW.org is public. They never store anything confidential on the public side of the server.

 

However, posting links to videos or publications before they were officially released on the website or on the JW Library app has caused some members trouble with inflexible individuals who tried to force their own rules on others. So in the end we decided not to allow links to unreleased material. Once the material is released, links are fine.

 

 

 

If you go to JW.org, find the previous broadcastings and click on share, these are the links you obtain:

 

August 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-101_1_VIDEO

 

September 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-102_1_VIDEO

 

October 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-106_1_VIDEO

 

So you can enter the same URL increasing the number (107, 108...) until you find the current video. It is usually stored there a few hours before it appears on JW.org, basically the time it takes for the videos in all languages to get copied.

 

If you are really obsessed you can spend the whole night checking and checking the URLs with those numbers until something appears. That's what some members here do. I have better things to do at night, but to each their own.

 

 

 

Amen!

This doesn't work. At least not for me. The only link that seems to work is the one with the download directory is present. So jw.org/download... 

[Leslie.m]

6 hours ago, carlos said:

 

For a long time our policy was that everything that is on the public side of JW.org is public. They never store anything confidential on the public side of the server.

 

However, posting links to videos or publications before they were officially released on the website or on the JW Library app has caused some members trouble with inflexible individuals who tried to force their own rules on others. So in the end we decided not to allow links to unreleased material. Once the material is released, links are fine.

 

 

 

If you go to JW.org, find the previous broadcastings and click on share, these are the links you obtain:

 

August 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-101_1_VIDEO

 

September 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-102_1_VIDEO

 

October 2023:

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jwb-106_1_VIDEO

 

So you can enter the same URL increasing the number (107, 108...) until you find the current video. It is usually stored there a few hours before it appears on JW.org, basically the time it takes for the videos in all languages to get copied.

 

If you are really obsessed you can spend the whole night checking and checking the URLs with those numbers until something appears. That's what some members here do. I have better things to do at night, but to each their own.

 

 

 

Amen!

Wait we’re only doing it this way due to the response of some inflexible individuals? The same inflexible individuals who would shut the forum down completely if they had the chance?

[carlos]

9 minutes ago, MikeyRo said:

The Finder method doesn't work until the video is visible on JW.org. You still need the GetPubMediaLinks URL to access the files on the CDN before they are indexed within the JW.org CMS. Of course anyone with some basic HTML knowledge can figure out how it works by using the View Source feature in the browser and searching for "getpubmedialinks". It's there in plain sight.

 

True, I didn't use the real links, it was only a way to help understand what "mining" links means, not to provide the link which, as already mentioned, is not allowed here until the broadcasting is released. 

[dove]

8 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Generally every one gets it within a couple of hours after it is uploaded to the server, so it lets us know that it is coming soon.

Someone mentioned what time approximately it would air on the East coast, but I can't find it. Does anyone remember? I'm asking for someone else.

[jayrtom]

And what about this? Possibly an Elder against watching the BC by a link not yet on jwlib, receives the S-147 announcements for November (already available) with news about what is inside the BC

 

[jwmanubcn]

This new booklet is available today in digital format and in many congregations and languages in printed format.

[carlos]

Please stop posting links to the unreleased program or we will issue warning points.

It has been mentioned many times already that links to unreleased materials are not allowed here.

[Tortuga]

1 minute ago, Manwithnoname said:

Should this not be behind a spoiler banner thingy as most of us haven't yet seen the broadcast?

Yes, and the moderators hid it. They will probably hide your post too since you quoted the other post.

[Loopy]

“Exercise Patience” friends 

 

 

[mjcabz]

11 hours ago, Josue Roman said:

The workbook for January and February 2024 is also now available on the servers.

What is the algorithm for mwb? 

[Manwithnoname]

20 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Yes, and the moderators hid it. They will probably hide your post too since you quoted the other post.

Thank you.

Apologies if I inadvertently added to the workload of things to hide 😬

[jayrtom]

57 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

I think because JW.org says this:

 

You may not:

• Misuse the website or its services, such as interfering with or accessing the website or its services using a method other than what is explicitly provided.

While I agree you guys aren't hurting anyone, I think it's also reasonable for people to interpret this method as using something other than what is "explicitly provided". 

 

That terms of use you are referring to have nothing to do to the issue in question. It concerns methods like for example making an app to access epubs and gather information on them to build databases - And that is the meaning of mining a website (I posted a definition some posts back)

The way apps are built using those methods is what's against the terms

 

Downloading or watching the videos outside of the main site or jwlib is using the site with the methods explicitly provided because there is there a play button and a download button. No workaround is needed its there explicitly available (see image on a previous post)

57 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

(just please don't post spoilers because you saw it 5hrs early 😂)

Agreed

[oyme]

Please do not type F5, it could cause a crash on the JW.ORG site. Furthermore, the important thing is not to find out what is new first, but to meditate and calmly review the information.