Covid-19 Vaccine Research, Development, Ingredients and Reactions

[Sofia]

5 hours ago, vern said:

mrna instruction aren.t persistant.

The spike protein production by the mRNA is short lived. when the codon finishes up reading it ... puuuf! gone. The cell who produces it eventualy dies and doent not reproduce that info for the next cell, so the production takes hours or days.

But ... the immune response caused by the reation of imune system to the spike protein lasts for ...? nobody knows. 

people infected by first sars is 2003 still had antibodies 17 years later 

6 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

As has already been noted, this is not correct, and is actually falsely being spread by people who don’t want to take the vaccine because they are against vaccinations per se.

You are right! 😉

[WilliamChew]

Breakthrough Cases

 

I noticed those who are vaccinated against covid-19 and who get the disease are now called "breakthrough" cases.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/23/health/covid-cases-vaccinated-people.html

 

Vaccinated People Can Get Covid, but It’s Most Likely Very Rare

“Breakthrough” cases, though quite uncommon, are a sharp reminder that vaccinated people should wear masks while the virus is circulating widely.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[New World Explorer]

European drug regulators have confirmed a link between the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 shot and rare blood clots, as UK authorities recommended that people under 30 should take alternative vaccines.

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said Wednesday that a particular combination of unusual blood clots with low blood platelet counts should be listed as a side effect of the vaccine, but stopped short of recommending its use be limited. The benefits of the shot outweigh the risks and Covid-19 is a "very serious disease," it added.https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/07/health/astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine-europe-uk-ema-intl/index.html

[rocket]

For those with autoimmune diseases who cannot take the vaccine, this may be something to keep an eye on. I make no recommendation.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/its-a-closely-held-secret-highly-promising-covid-19-treatment-hasnt-gained-widespread-use/ar-BB1fqP2n?li=BBnb7Kz

[vern]

this is just a bunch of copy and pasting research i did.  its very complicated stuff.. i don't really have a sum up....  but it goes to what medicine is playing with to try and make vaccines....  but i don't think they have a lot of control over long term issues.  they just wait and see.   being that they isolated this virures( atleast this is what they say) was 15 month ago or so....  but in the past regulation made it 10 year process to get approval tells you this truely is experemental.

 

 

Spoiler

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/immortalised-cell-line
Immortalised Cell Line

Immortalized cell lines are either tumorous cells that do not stop dividing or cells that have been artificially manipulated to proliferate indefinitely and can, thus, be cultured over several generations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncovirus
An oncovirus or oncogenic virus is a virus that can cause cancer.
"viruses cannot truly be isolated in pure culture—even stringent isolation techniques cannot exclude undetected contaminating viruses "
"viruses must be grown on cells."

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/biologics-research-projects/investigating-viruses-cells-used-make-vaccines-and-evaluating-potential-threat-posed-transmission
"Virus-based vaccines are made in living cells (cell substrates). Some manufacturers are investigating the use of new cell lines to make vaccines. The continual growth of cell lines ensures that there is a consistent supply of the same cells that can yield high quantities of the vaccine."
"In some cases the cell lines that are used might be tumorigenic, that is, they form tumors "
"Some of these tumor-forming cell lines may contain cancer-causing viruses that are not actively reproducing. Such viruses are hard to detect "
"latent, or "quiet," viruses pose a potential threat, since they might become active under vaccine manufacturing conditions."
"cell substrate is safe to use for vaccine production."
"Such work will also help FDA to develop a new policy regarding blood donation "
"Detection of latent viruses in cell substrates for vaccine safety."
"novel cell substrates"
"These include tumorigenic cells"
dog cancer kidney cells being used as a substrate for the production of vaccine.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20537553/
https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2014/06/18/Which-came-first-the-spaniel-or-the-egg-Novartis-vaccine-plant-OKed
"Vaccine preparation.The seed virus, Vac-3 P22 (H5N1), was grown for vaccine production using a BelloCell cell culture system (CESCO Bioengineering, Taichung, Chinese Taipei). For cell attachment, a bottle was filled with 500 ml medium (10% fetal bovine serum [FBS] in MEM, with the glucose level adjusted to 3 g/liter) and inoculated with MDCK cells at 4 × 105 cells/ml."
"10% fetal bovine serum " = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum
"Fetal bovine serum is a by-product of the dairy industry."
"The first stage of the production process for fetal bovine serum is the harvesting of blood from the bovine fetus after the fetus is removed from the slaughtered cow."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRC-5-- mrc-5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells used in "The Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, codenamed AZD1222,[5] and sold under the brand name Covishield and Vaxzevria among others," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford–AstraZeneca_COVID-19_vaccine

https://stemcellsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/sctm.19-0375 weird use of " practice of banking umbilical cords"   
https://www.cos-7.com/ -- using a none cancer causing virus in

 

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920304258
COVID-19 outpatients: early risk-stratified treatment with zinc plus low-dose hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin

"significantly fewer hospitalisation"
"chloroquine derivatives are effective in improving clinical and virological outcomes and may reduce mortality by a factor of 3 in patients affected with COVID-19. "
"Starting triple therapy as early as possible after symptom onset is critical for treatment success because SARS-CoV-2 viral load appears to peak at Days 5–6 after symptom onset [27], [28], [29] and severe cases progress to ARDS after only 8–9 days [30,31]."
"The antiviral effects of zinc against a variety of viruses have been demonstrated during the last decades [46]. Zinc, in addition to its role as a general stimulant of antiviral immunity, is known to specifically inhibit coronavirus RNA-dependent RNA polymerase"
"The potential of zinc to enhance the antiviral efficacy of HCQ was already described in detail elsewhere [22]. This hypothesis was recently confirmed in a study using a similar triple therapy and treatment duration [23]. Zinc added to HCQ and azithromycin resulted in a significantly increased number of patients being discharged, a reduction in mortality, or transfer to hospice"

 

 

[New World Explorer]

Australia secures additional Pfizer vaccine following AstraZeneca concerns
 

The Pfizer jab is now the preferred jab for Australians under the age of 50, after health advice warned of a potential link between rare blood clots and the AstraZeneca vaccine.

It followed reports of a small number of blood clotting cases linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine around the world.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the additional doses would mean Australia would receive 40 million Pfizer doses this year.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-09/national-cabinet-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-clots-rollout/100058440

[New World Explorer]

Yesterday Australian Prime Minister said in a snap conference that Astra Zeneca should not be given to those under 50, due to rare blood clot side effects. Whole vaccine roll out has changed ..now they are going with Pfizer 40 ml, which almost covers whole population. 
Astra Zeneca is not banned, but simply not recommended. 

It’s very interesting that whole country changed the course due to a legitimate concerns. (Google for links if interested) 

[hatcheckgirl]

Yes, it’s good there has been a response by the Australian government. It should be doing this. If there are any concerns, they should be addressed. So I’m glad in this instance they have acted.

[New World Explorer]

1 hour ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Yes, it’s good there has been a response by the Australian government. It should be doing this. If there are any concerns, they should be addressed. So I’m glad in this instance they have acted.

They had supply issues with Astra Zeneca, so perhaps this played a part as well to make a final decision to offload AZ and get Pfizer. 

[trottigy]

On 4/6/2021 at 8:18 AM, carlos said:

IMO a much better approach would have been: 20 million people have received this vaccine and 9 of them (or 14 or 16, I am not sure) have died of blood clots. It's not clear if all those cases are vaccine-related, but even if they were, the vaccine's benefits still outweigh by far its dangers. I mean, if those 20 million people had caught the virus, 20,000 would have died. Nine (or 15 or 20) victims vs 20,000 seems quite a reasonable ratio.

I just saw a an article from Reuters (a pretty respective news organization) that said something similar:

 

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The EMA said its vaccine side effects monitoring system, as of April 4, had received 169 reports of cases of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST), or clots in blood vessels exiting the brain, and 53 cases of splanchnic vein thrombosis (SVT), or clotting in veins in the abdomen.

 

That’s out of some 34 million AstraZeneca vaccine doses administered in Britain and the European Economic Area since vaccinations started almost three months ago.

 

Its safety committee carried out a review of 62 cases of CVST and 24 cases of SVT, of which 18 were fatal.

 Their conclusion was:

 

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The EMA said that unusual blood clots with low blood platelets should be listed as very rare side effects and countries should decide on how to proceed with their national COVID-19 immunisation campaigns.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-sideeffec-idUSKBN2BW19B

[Loopy]

I certainly don’t see Michigan getting back to our K H any time soon. 

 

https://www.radioresultsnetwork.com/2021/04/09/203677/?fbclid=IwAR04u30XUSsaqHm0F2UY9v4vVxVBF1cMxRfcjFtv7JSrSr-VESWcbWGlKqg
 

LMAS District Health Department has received confirmation of the B.1.1.7. variant of COVID-19 in a Mackinac County resident. Marquette County identified the first cases of the variant in the UP on March 16, 2021.

 

Case investigation indicated that these were not isolated cases, but were related to community spread. As of April 8th, there are 18 confirmed cases of the B.1.1.7. variant in the UP in Houghton, Chippewa, Marquette, Dickinson, and Mackinac counties.

 

The State of Michigan is reporting 2,262 confirmed cases of the variant, second only to Florida.

“The B.1.1.7. variant is much more infectious than the original strain, and we certainly see that in the sudden surge in cases in our four counties,” said LMAS Health Officer, Nick Derusha. “The variant arrived in the Upper Peninsula at the same time that more things were opening up and more people have become less diligent in following the basic protocols of wearing a mask, limiting gatherings, washing hands, and staying home when sick. It was a perfect storm.”

 

From February 4 to March 4, 2021, cases in the district increased by 58. In the most recent four week period of March 11 to April 8, LMAS has added another 215 cases, representing a 270% increase from the previous period.

[Dustparticle]

15 minutes ago, Loopy said:

I certainly don’t see Michigan getting back to our K H any time soon. 

 

https://www.radioresultsnetwork.com/2021/04/09/203677/?fbclid=IwAR04u30XUSsaqHm0F2UY9v4vVxVBF1cMxRfcjFtv7JSrSr-VESWcbWGlKqg
 

LMAS District Health Department has received confirmation of the B.1.1.7. variant of COVID-19 in a Mackinac County resident. Marquette County identified the first cases of the variant in the UP on March 16, 2021.

 

Case investigation indicated that these were not isolated cases, but were related to community spread. As of April 8th, there are 18 confirmed cases of the B.1.1.7. variant in the UP in Houghton, Chippewa, Marquette, Dickinson, and Mackinac counties.

 

The State of Michigan is reporting 2,262 confirmed cases of the variant, second only to Florida.

“The B.1.1.7. variant is much more infectious than the original strain, and we certainly see that in the sudden surge in cases in our four counties,” said LMAS Health Officer, Nick Derusha. “The variant arrived in the Upper Peninsula at the same time that more things were opening up and more people have become less diligent in following the basic protocols of wearing a mask, limiting gatherings, washing hands, and staying home when sick. It was a perfect storm.”

 

From February 4 to March 4, 2021, cases in the district increased by 58. In the most recent four week period of March 11 to April 8, LMAS has added another 215 cases, representing a 270% increase from the previous period.

We are not going back to our hall soon. I hope the friends get in their heads that we are not and stop hoping it that they will. It leads to disappointment.

[Loopy]

26 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

We are not going back to our hall soon. I hope the friends get in their heads that we are not and stop hoping it that they will. It leads to disappointment.

Absolutely! 
 

It’s disappointing enough that this virus keeps going up and down. 

[Cheeks]

Thought I would post this, maybe it’s already been discussed before: does anyone have a fear of what the long term effects of the vaccine will be? Specifically, are we going to start hearing 5-10 yrs down the road that the vaccine taken in 2021 is being linked to....whatever health issue(s).

I’m not anti-vaccine or anti-mask at all. But because this vaccine is very new who knows what the long term effects are.

We aren’t on deck to the vaccine for a while due to age here in Canada but it is something that weighs in my mind, to the point where I am not sure I want it.

Anyone else feel similar?


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[Qapla]

It has been mentioned.  Were are the aspects in a nutshell:

• No one knows what the long term effects of the vaccine will be
• No one knows what the long term effects of having C-19 will be
• It is known that the short term effects of C-19 can be death or severe illness
• It is a personal choice as to taking the vaccine

 

[Shawnster]

At one time standard vaccines were new and experimental. 

 

All medicine is only a temporary solution and side effects are a sad reality of humans doing the best they can with imperfect knowledge and ability. 

 

The Kingdom is the best and only permanent solution to any health crisis. 

 

No, I'm not concerned about side effects 10 or 15 years down the road. While I respect others who believe what they believe when it comes to medical decisions, I feel a lot of their fears are unfounded and influenced by lack of proper knowledge or education, blindly accepting misinformation and disinformation, or the result of the movie and TV industry feeding us decades of scary and science fiction stories about genetic manipulation and mutation. 

[AH173]

46 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

At one time standard vaccines were new and experimental. 

 

All medicine is only a temporary solution and side effects are a sad reality of humans doing the best they can with imperfect knowledge and ability. 

 

The Kingdom is the best and only permanent solution to any health crisis. 

 

No, I'm not concerned about side effects 10 or 15 years down the road. While I respect others who believe what they believe when it comes to medical decisions, I feel a lot of their fears are unfounded and influenced by lack of proper knowledge or education, blindly accepting misinformation and disinformation, or the result of the movie and TV industry feeding us decades of scary and science fiction stories about genetic manipulation and mutation. 

So true.

 

And I would like to include Jeremiah 17:9 also.

 

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(Jeremiah 17:9) “The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it?”

 

[Loopy]

As of today’s numbers Alger county has 295 confirmed cases. 😳 
 

Out of 15 counties for the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, we’re still #12 , which is good.

 

 

[carlos]

5 hours ago, Cheeks said:

We aren’t on deck to the vaccine for a while due to age here in Canada but it is something that weighs in my mind, to the point where I am not sure I want it.

Anyone else feel similar?

Your concern is not unusual or unreasonable at all, John. I think most people feel a bit like that.

 

Personally I think the way governments have handled the situation with this vaccine hasn't been good. They have clearly lied to the public denying any blood clots cases had to do with the vaccine, then they have had sudden shifts in the way it's applied. That has created a lot of distrust.

 

Now, however, they are taking a different approach that IMO should have been the right one from the beginning. They are admitting that in some rare cases the vaccine creates blood clots. This is a very rare occurrence, only one case per 100,000 vaccinated people. Then they are comparing that to the side effects of several medicines everybody uses all the time, such as aspirin, ibuprofen, paracetamol or the contraceptive pill. All of them may have dangerous side effects in a much higher frequency than the AstraZeneca vaccine, yet we don't hesitate to use them. If blood clots have been detected that's only because 35 million people have already been vaccinated already with AstraZeneca. Now that doctors know of this effect, they are working in a solution.

 

We can't completely discard that five, ten or twenty years down the road some negative after-effects may become evident. But personally I think it's more reasonable to be worried with the very real possibility of dying from covid right now than with some potential danger that may or may not materialize some years in the future. Hopefully by then we will already be in the new world and all health problems will be a matter of the past.

[AH173]

Wow!

This 60 minutes video segment about DARPA is something else!

 

[Sofia]

On 4/10/2021 at 9:07 PM, carlos said:

Your concern is not unusual or unreasonable at all, John. I think most people feel a bit like that.

 

Personally I think the way governments have handled the situation with this vaccine hasn't been good. They have clearly lied to the public denying any blood clots cases had to do with the vaccine, then they have had sudden shifts in the way it's applied. That has created a lot of distrust.

 

Now, however, they are taking a different approach that IMO should have been the right one from the beginning. They are admitting that in some rare cases the vaccine creates blood clots. This is a very rare occurrence, only one case per 100,000 vaccinated people. Then they are comparing that to the side effects of several medicines everybody uses all the time, such as aspirin, ibuprofen, paracetamol or the contraceptive pill. All of them may have dangerous side effects in a much higher frequency than the AstraZeneca vaccine, yet we don't hesitate to use them. If blood clots have been detected that's only because 35 million people have already been vaccinated already with AstraZeneca. Now that doctors know of this effect, they are working in a solution.

 

We can't completely discard that five, ten or twenty years down the road some negative after-effects may become evident. But personally I think it's more reasonable to be worried with the very real possibility of dying from covid right now than with some potential danger that may or may not materialize some years in the future. Hopefully by then we will already be in the new world and all health problems will be a matter of the past.

Here I go with a bit of info

Covid causes blood cloths

i had covid and my platelets suffered

i got trombocitopenia. My liver had to compensate releasing extra vit k 

 

the more close the vaccine is to the protein spike the more mimetic it becomes the secondary effects and covid it self

of course they say you won’t end up in ICU

but that’s not so true 

believe me : who ever gets covid vaccine and gets side effects due to its own genetic immune system reaction... if in deed ended up catching covid it would be even worse

so I don’t think the vaccines aren’t as bad as written 

covid yes

can take away your quality of life for months like me

i was a long hauler for 12 months

and I still have immunity 

and I still have nervous symptoms in few parts of body due to covid reactivating of EBV and CMV in my nerves.

[Sofia]

On 4/10/2021 at 3:05 PM, Cheeks said:

Thought I would post this, maybe it’s already been discussed before: does anyone have a fear of what the long term effects of the vaccine will be? Specifically, are we going to start hearing 5-10 yrs down the road that the vaccine taken in 2021 is being linked to....whatever health issue(s).

I’m not anti-vaccine or anti-mask at all. But because this vaccine is very new who knows what the long term effects are.

We aren’t on deck to the vaccine for a while due to age here in Canada but it is something that weighs in my mind, to the point where I am not sure I want it.

Anyone else feel similar?


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Think about the long terms of getting COVID-19 

I was a long hauler for 12 months and my nerves are still not 😌 good.

taking vaccine is a personal thing 

no doubt

never forget if you catch this coronavirus... you never know what this s..... can do to you...

it causes weird effects in each person body s system

[daydream]

On 3/3/2021 at 10:23 AM, M.J. said:

Joseph Mercola

On his website, Mercola and colleagues advocate a number of unproven alternative health notions including homeopathy and opposition to vaccination. These positions have faced persistent criticism. 

Joseph Mercola - Wikipedia

https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2021/03/fda-warns-mercola-to-stop-selling-fake-covid-remedies-and-cures/

FDA warns Mercola: Stop selling fake COVID remedies and cure.

[AH173]

Got my 2nd Moderna shot. 

 

Hoping for the best! 

[.Ivan.]

I am going on my first dose of Astra Zeneca today, the only vaccine that my poor country in the south of Europe can obviously afford. (Pfizer $ 15, Astra $ 2) I know it's a controversial vaccine but my colleague also received it yesterday and everything seems ok for now. I am a little scared like when I was vaccinated against something as a child. wish me luck. i am 46 years old and got over covid 19 6 months ago. My wife will go soon also.