Russia invades Ukraine

[Saffron]

I was just reading about how other countries are providing Ukraine with weapons. Putin says that convoys transporting foreign weapons into Ukraine are legitimate targets. 

 

So if they start attacking NATO country convoys, is that enough for them to step in? Or does Russia have to actually attack the country itself? 

[Jothob]

Day 20 and this conflict is getting worse by the day. So sad to see the needless loss of life. 
It was heartbreaking to learn of that pregnant lady they stretchered out of the bombed maternity unit, has died along with her baby! 😢 

I think I need to take a break from watching the news…

[Old]

4 hours ago, Woanders said:

The talk being preported is after the weekend, Putin's forces will attack a NATO territorial land. If it's true, NATO will have grounds to use force and that will tip everything over.

A little more information on this is needed. What is "this talk"? Being preported? By whom?

Such statements demand authentation.

[Shawnster]

This is how wars escalate.  It's a snowball effect. 

 

World War I

June 28 Archduke Ferdinand assassination 

 

On 28 July, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia; Russia came to Serbia's defence and by 4 August, the conflict had expanded to include Germany, France and Britain, along with their respective colonial empires. In November, the Ottoman Empire, Germany and Austria formed the Central Powers, while in April 1915, Italy joined Britain, France, Russia and Serbia as the Allied Powers.

 

World War II

World War II is generally considered to have begun on 1 September 1939, when Nazi Germany, under Adolf Hitler, invaded Poland. The United Kingdom and France subsequently declared war on Germany on 3 September. Under the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939, Germany and the Soviet Union had partitioned Poland and marked out their "spheres of influence" across Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Romania. From late 1939 to early 1941, in a series of campaigns and treaties, Germany conquered or controlled much of continental Europe, and formed the Axis alliance with Italy and Japan (along with other countries later on). Following the onset of campaigns in North Africa and East Africa, and the fall of France in mid-1940, the war continued primarily between the European Axis powers and the British Empire, with war in the Balkans, the aerial Battle of Britain, the Blitz of the UK, and the Battle of the Atlantic. On 22 June 1941, Germany led the European Axis powers in an invasion of the Soviet Union, opening the Eastern Front, the largest land theatre of war in history.

[Doug]

5 hours ago, Woanders said:

The talk being reported is after the weekend, Putin's forces will attack a NATO territorial land. If it's true, NATO will have grounds to use force and that will tip everything over.

Ultimately, Satan is behind this warfare.  Satan may already know, or suspect, this year's Memorial is the last one.

Consequently, Satan will use every means at his disposal to distract the world from the worldwide campaign inviting the public to the last Memorial.

 

Not too farfetched  .    .

[Amygdala]

3 hours ago, Old said:

A little more information on this is needed. What is "this talk"? Being preported? By whom?

Such statements demand authentation.

The Ukrainian president claimed it, and was repeated on a news source  on a running news channel. Sorry I heard it while watching and listening to the news while catching up with chores. It might be just his claim, though. However Putin is not beyond intimidation and offensive action.

[New World Explorer]

7 hours ago, Woanders said:

The talk being preported is after the weekend, Putin's forces will attack a NATO territorial land. If it's true, NATO will have grounds to use force and that will tip everything over.

Putin is already stretched in Ukraine to the point of recruiting volunteers from Syria, how on earth he wants to face huge military of NATO? It does not seem to me that he has conventional capabilities to do this. The war in Ukraine exposed weakness of his army. 

[LindaViktoria]

8 hours ago, carlos said:

This is true. In the announcement we received it was mentioned that accommodation was needed for our Ukrainian and Russian friends who come as refugees. So they are coming from both countries.

Same announcement in Sweden. 

[Amygdala]

55 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Putin is already stretched in Ukraine to the point of recruiting volunteers from Syria

This is in response to the volunteer fighters coming from around the world to support Ukraine. 

Putin claims these are mercenaries hired by Ukraine and so wouldn’t be considered POW if they were captured.

[➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone]

Dan 11:44 “But reports out of the east and out of the north will disturb him..."

Has there been recent commentary on "the east"?
Is it possible the East is China? Did Russia ask China for help? (Fake news?)
If China pulls back from supporting Russia, will Russia run out of puff?

Dan 11:45 "... and he will come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him."

Pure speculation. Personally, I would like this to mean Russia crumbles in a repeat fashion of the USSR.
She is still KotN, but loses much ground and world dominance that she so desperately seeks.
Add the EU court going against her. Add the new World Court action on the Russian alleged downing of a passenger flight.
Added to China stepping back (if true)...
It makes for an interesting scenario.
One can only hope.

Old (Downunder) Tone

[Shawnster]

9 hours ago, Doug said:

Ultimately, Satan is behind this warfare.  Satan may already know, or suspect, this year's Memorial is the last one.

Suspect? Possibly. Know? No.  Satan will not know which Memorial will be the last until the great tribulation begins.  

 

 

 

 

[Michał]

I’m thinking Sayan really wants to escalate this. Politicians from Poland, Slovakia and Czechia went today to Kiev to meet Zelenski. In person. 

[Dages]

22 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Satan will not know which Memorial will be the last until the great tribulation begins.  

Yep, demons aren't in heaven, they have no spiritual truth nor understanding.

[Amygdala]

When you listen to this and see how protected Putin is, it will most likely only be Jehovah who takes this man down.

 

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Woanders

[Amygdala]

Sorry initially posted the wrong video. 

[Dustparticle]

14 minutes ago, Woanders said:

When you listen to this and see how protected Putin is, it will most likely only be Jehovah who takes this man down.

 

 

It does not matter, if he dies like other wicked men in the past, they will stay dead.

[jayrtom]

Interesting video connecting religion with Putin acts

 

 

[Sheep]

President Zelenskyy of Ukraine addressed the Canadian House of Commons this morning via video conference. He and Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada, called each other "friend" during their meeting. When Trudeau addressed the House of Commons, he received a standing ovation from all the Members of Parliament and others present that lasted almost a minute. Then Zelenskyy began his 15-minute impassioned speech, which drew another standing ovation that lasted nearly two minutes.

 

It was reported on by all of the news networks in Canada, and put up on YouTube. Trudeau's speech begins at the start of the video, and Zelenskyy's starts at the 6:30 mark.

 

 

[rolypoly]

Im starting to wonder, could this NOT be 'it'?  If this soon led to GT, would it be 'like a thief'?  I guess the start of it all could be considered unexpected.  But if this plays out over a number of months and results in p&s, will we be surprised?  I guess the world would be surprised and maybe thats all that matters since we keep on the watch.  But this just seems like 'an hour' that we WOULD 'think'.  

 

But what is considered an hour?  I guess if this all ends in a few months it would feel like an hour in retrospect.

Edited March 15, 2022 by rolypoly

[Susan Cook]

16 minutes ago, rolypoly said:

Im starting to wonder, could this NOT be 'it'?  If this soon led to GT, would it be 'like a thief'?  I guess the start of it all could be considered unexpected.  But if this plays out over a number of months and results in p&s, will we be surprised?  I guess the world would be surprised and maybe thats all that matters since we keep on the watch.  But this just seems like 'an hour' that we WOULD 'think'.  

 

But what is considered an hour?  I guess if this all ends in a few months it would feel like an hour in retrospect.

Brother Sanderson’s reminder to us and particularly elders at the end of the annual meeting made me feel like the GT could very well break out in the coming months

 

* Keep On The Watch! *

Edited March 15, 2022 by Susan Cook

[Sofia]

Ukrainian church leader repeats justification for violence

KILLING RUSSIAN OCCUPIERS IS NO SIN

by Anastasia Kalatur

Ukrainskaya Pravda, 15 March 2022

 

The Orthodox Church of Ukraine [PTsU] does not consider it sin to wish the death of the enemy and to kill the Russian occupiers.

The primate of the PTsU, Metropolitan Epifany, said this on a broadcast of a telethon and was quoted by Zerkalo Nedeli.

"We as a nation do not strive for the death of those who are our neighbors. But insofar as they have come into our home, we are defending our family, our motherland, and our land. Our troops are protecting all Ukrainians.

"To defend and to kill the enemy is not a sin. We are defending and we are not seeking to gain what is not ours. And the one who has come to our home with a sword will also die by that sword." (tr. by PDS, posted 15 March 2022)

Source: https://www2.stetson.edu/religious-news/220315a.html

[Sofia]

The mayor of Kyiv has written a letter to the Pope asking him to visit the Ukrainian capital

From CNN’s Delia Gallagher

Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko has written a letter to Pope Francis asking him to visit the city, according to Vatican spokesperson Matteo Bruni.

Klitschko wrote to Francis on March 8, saying that the Pope’s presence in Kyiv “is key for saving lives and paving the path to peace in our city, country and beyond.”

Klitschko also suggested a joint video conference with President Zelensky if the Pope were not able to personally make the visit.

The Vatican spokesperson acknowledged receipt of the letter but did not say whether the Pope would visit Kyiv or participate in a video conference.

The spokesperson said that Francis was “close to the suffering of the city and its people, to those who had to flee and to those working in the city’s administration.”

The Pope has also appealed for an end to the war and has offered the Vatican’s assistance in mediation.

 

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Meanwhile PORTUGAL is sending Fatima´s lady Statue #13 from Fatima´s sanctuary to Ukraine at the Vatican´s expenses... 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Sofia

[Jimi-L]

4 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Ukrainian church leader repeats justification for violence

KILLING RUSSIAN OCCUPIERS IS NO SIN

by Anastasia Kalatur

Ukrainskaya Pravda, 15 March 2022

 

The Orthodox Church of Ukraine [PTsU] does not consider it sin to wish the death of the enemy and to kill the Russian occupiers.

The primate of the PTsU, Metropolitan Epifany, said this on a broadcast of a telethon and was quoted by Zerkalo Nedeli.

"We as a nation do not strive for the death of those who are our neighbors. But insofar as they have come into our home, we are defending our family, our motherland, and our land. Our troops are protecting all Ukrainians.

"To defend and to kill the enemy is not a sin. We are defending and we are not seeking to gain what is not ours. And the one who has come to our home with a sword will also die by that sword." (tr. by PDS, posted 15 March 2022)

Source: https://www2.stetson.edu/religious-news/220315a.html

There we go again; The harlot of Babylon is again fishing for the popularity of others. It is easy to change clothes. It's like something similar happened before...

Edited March 15, 2022 by Jimi-L

[X-Tryman]

9 hours ago, ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone said:

Dan 11:44 “But reports out of the east and out of the north will disturb him..."

Has there been recent commentary on "the east"?

 

I found this interesting that Russia and China released joint statement last month talking about bringing peace with "genuine multipolarity with the United Nations and its Security Council playing a central and coordinating role"

 

Here is the statement: http://en.kremlin.ru/supplement/5770

[Sofia]

Russia seeks UN humanitarian resolution not mentioning war

 

The France-Mexico draft resolution would demand “an immediate cessation of hostilities” and deplore “the dire humanitarian consequences of the hostilities against Ukraine” and would almost certainly have led to a Russian veto. Those provisions are not in the proposed Russian resolution.

 Russia circulated a proposed U.N. Security Council resolution Tuesday demanding protection for civilians “in vulnerable situations” in Ukraine and safe passage for humanitarian aid and people seeking to leave the country, but it make no mention of Russia’s responsibility for the war against its smaller neighbor.

The Russian draft resolution also demands that “all parties concerned” respect international humanitarian law, which requires protection of civilian infrastructure “indispensable to the survival of the civilian population” and “critical to enable the delivery of essential services in armed conflict.”

It demands that all parties -- again unnamed -- “refrain from deliberately placing military objects and equipment in the vicinity” of civilian infrastructure or in densely populated areas, “as well as not to use civilian objects from military purposes.”

The Russian draft also calls on “all parties concerned to allow safe and unhindered passage to destinations outside of Ukraine, including to foreign nationals without discrimination,” and to facilitate humanitarian aid to all in need in and around Ukraine.

 

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russia-seeks-un-humanitarian-resolution-not-mentioning-war/2022/03/15/2fc55be6-a495-11ec-8628-3da4fa8f8714_story.html

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I think it wont pass either ...  like ... Ukraine shoot in the foot. dont think so.

tomorrow is the vote.

UN Definitely need a reform in that veto power thing