Covid-19 Vaccine Research, Development, Ingredients and Reactions

[Julie]

7 minutes ago, blue-jay said:

My daughter can't have deodorant that has aluminum or she gets a rash that looks and hurts like a burn.

Off Topic I know... but I make my own deodorant from 1/3rd cup of coconut oil, 1/3rd cup of arrowroot powder or you can use corn flour & 1/3 cup of baking soda

(we call it bicarbonate of soda) ... It works a treat for me and no nasties in it!!

Edited December 3, 2020 by Julie

[Qapla]

1 hour ago, Naturale said:

Also many people use natural alternatives for deodorant.

 

5 minutes ago, blue-jay said:

My daughter can't have deodorant that has aluminum or she gets a rash that looks and hurts like a burn.

 

I can't eat kielbasa sausage or I will get an intense headache

 

My Sister-in-law is allergic to the fragrance of several flowers that are native to where we live.

 

Just because something is man-made does not make it evil any more than something "natural" must be safe.

[Naturale]

29 minutes ago, Qapla said:

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Naturale

[Naturale]

27 minutes ago, Qapla said:

 

Just because something is man-made does not make it evil any more than something "natural" must be safe.

Personally I don't want to block my sweat glands or absorb aluminum compounds through my skin every day.   There are some concerns about aluminum and parabens since they are potential endocrine disruptors.  Probably most people don't think about that, that's fine, their choice.

One thing is for sure using lemon is safe and healthy  

[blue-jay]

25 minutes ago, Qapla said:

 

 

I can't eat kielbasa sausage or I will get an intense headache

 

My Sister-in-law is allergic to the fragrance of several flowers that are native to where we live.

 

Just because something is man-made does not make it evil any more than something "natural" must be safe.

Woah, relax. All I said is that my daughter can't use deodorant with aluminum, because the sister mentioned it. 

I didn't say it as part of an argument. It was a simple fact/statement about my kid's underarms....

[Bob]

@Shawnster

 

I think this quote took the cake when it comes to making the vaccine a political issue:

 

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“If the public health professionals, if Dr. [Anthony] Fauci if the doctors tell us that we should take it, then I’ll be first in line to take it,” Harris said.

“But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it — then I’m not taking it.”

Kamala Harris on COVID vaccine: Won't take it if Trump tells me to (nypost.com)

 

This comment is bird brained, and is just a childish remark, which leads to vaccine hesitancy. 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Bob

[Fallbrookian]

2 hours ago, Naturale said:

You don't believe that the general health of humans in many places is worse now than ever before?  

 

Also many people use natural alternatives for deodorant.

That’s so true. I notice chronic health issues in people widespread, and not just the older ones, young ones as well.

[Old]

IMO: I am quite willing to take the vaccine, when and if it becomes available.

I am quite willing to ride on a Boeing 737 Max' when and if such a flight becomes available.

The big difference in my case is my wife would likely get the vaccine at the same time I do but I would probably be flying solo on the 737 Max.

[kejedo]

Testing on vaccines is ongoing. I learned that b/c 20 years ago, I took a flu shot that nearly killed me and I had a long illness and ended up in hospital. Was told by docs at that time to never take a flu shot again. The long account is in my medical record, but docs said, just tell future MDs that you are allergic to flu shot. Said, done, but docs have still asked me about this annually. For the passed few years, docs have said, "The flu shot has been improved. It is prepared more safely and there are far fewer adverse reax or deaths." This made me conclude that vaccines are being worked on for improvement. I did take the flu shot this year and no bad reax.  Allergic to flu shot has been removed from my medical record. As for upcoming vaccines, I'm on the watch. Y(only had pneumonia one time this season, so far)S

[Jothob]

The vaccine has now arrived in the UK and going to start being used next Tuesday. 
The logistics looks like it’s going to be a nightmare! 

[Jothob]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccine-now-in-the-uk-sky-news-understands-12150269

[Lee49]

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/hackers-targeting-supply-chain-keeps-coronavirus-vaccines-cold-experts-warn-n1249824

 

Hackers targeting supply chain that keeps coronavirus vaccines cold, experts warn

 

 Hackers backed by foreign governments are targeting companies involved in the shipping and storing the coronavirus vaccine at a low enough temperature to keep it from spoiling, IBM said in research released Thursday.

 The hacking campaign consisted of phishing emails spoofed to look like they had come from an executive at Haier Medical, a Chinese company that specializes in the “cold chain,” the supply chain of specialized equipment for the shipping and storing goods that have to be kept well refrigerated. The emails contained an attached HTML file that prompts the recipient to enter their username and password, an attempt by the hackers to get access to the victim’s network.

[Omoyeme]

6 hours ago, Naturale said:

One thing is for sure using lemon is safe and healthy  

And it tastes heavenly, too!

 

I remember my elders (old family members) who told us that, back in their day, they couldn't afford some medicines and doctor visits and were compelled to use effective alternatives for their sicknesses. (Then too, all 9 of my grandmother's children were born at home using the services of a midwife).  So their experiences have rubbed off onto other family members in some aspects. Plus, building up my immune system has been a great protection over ailments over the past several years.

 

[friendlyone]

I found this article of interest. It goes into what the vaccine contains, how it works etc.

 

 

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Everything you need to know about the Pfizer/BioNTech covid-19 vaccine

 

What is in the vaccine?

The active ingredient is messenger RNA that carries instructions for making the virus’s spike protein, which it uses to gain entry to cells. The mRNA is synthetic, not extracted from actual viruses. It is delivered in a tiny sphere of inert fatty material called a lipid nanoparticle.

The RNA-bearing nanoparticles are suspended in saline solution and injected into muscle tissue in the upper arm. The mRNA is then taken up by specialist immune cells, which follow its instructions to make the spike protein, just as they would do if they had become infected with the actual virus.

 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2261805-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine/

 

I doubt the Governing Body will tell us much about this product,  or any other vaccine that comes on the market, simply because for a long time they have rightly said that it's up to each individual to do his/her own research on foods, drugs etc.

 

As always, time will tell.  🙂

 

[SUNRAY]

Here are additional things we should know about..other ingredients..

 

Croda International has agreed to supply Pfizer with novel excipients used to make the drugmaker’s Covid-19 vaccine candidate. The contract, which is for a term of five years, enables Croda to initially supply four component excipients for the first three years of the agreement. (c) L N

 

https://cen.acs.org/business/outsourcing/Pfizer-signs-Croda-vaccine-excipients/98/i44

 

Excipients can include preservatives in multi-dose vials, and one or more ingredients that rev-up the immune system, called Aduvents. The above link mentions which company will make the excipients..Avanti Polar Lipids. Details about the excipients made by Avanti Polar Lipids can be found here:

 

https://avantilipids.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIodyX5L-07QIVSaiGCh3XcwkaEAAYASAAEgLyQvD_BwE

 

There is a significant Aduvent mentioned from a special tree in Chile: The inner bark of the Chilean soapbark tree, Quillaja saponaria, is the source material for some of these saponins.  Pulverized and soaked in water at the Desert King factory in Chile, the bark is transformed into a brown, bitter, bubbly fluid. This precious goo does many things well, and it happens to be the raw material for one of the world’s most coveted vaccine adjuvants: QS-21. Adjuvants are compounds that boost the body’s immune reaction to a vaccine. Owing to their potential risks to human health, however, only a handful of adjuvants have been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and QS-21 is one of the newest. A single gram of powdered QS-21 costs more than $100,000, though only about $5 worth is needed for each shot.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/10/single-tree-species-may-hold-key-coronavirus-vaccine/616792/

[SUNRAY]

Here is what I think is a positive! Vaccinations in single dose disposable plastic viles!

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/19/936207326/as-vaccine-approvals-loom-u-s-funds-a-back-up-plan-for-delivery

[sunshine]

18 hours ago, Jothob said:

The vaccine has now arrived in the UK and going to start being used next Tuesday. 
The logistics looks like it’s going to be a nightmare! 

Dont worry, the' government are currently recruiting and training non-medical auxilary staff to administer the millions of doses they have already commissioned. Before you know it there will be free vaccinations at Sainsbury's and drive through jabs at McDonalds.  

 

We put a man on the moon, it wont be difficult to vaccinate every man woman, child and new born baby in the UK within a year (probably 6 months).  I think with a bit of inventiveness they will be able even get it into foetuses in their mothers womb.

 

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by sunshine

[cricket246]

I was notified by our local elders awhile back that the hospitals were using convelesant plasma to treat covid-19 and that as Jehovah's Witnesses we couldn't use it. That if they offer non plasma meds it would be a personal choice. And that we also weren't to give blood if we had covid & recovered.

 

[Shawnster]

On 12/3/2020 at 12:49 PM, Bob said:

@Shawnster

 

I think this quote took the cake when it comes to making the vaccine a political issue:

 

Kamala Harris on COVID vaccine: Won't take it if Trump tells me to (nypost.com)

 

This comment is bird brained, and is just a childish remark, which leads to vaccine hesitancy. 

Totally correct.  

 

 

[califlorican]

2 hours ago, sunshine said:

Dont worry, the' government are currently recruiting and training non-medical auxilary staff to administer the millions of doses they have already commissioned. Before you know it there will be free vaccinations at Sainsbury's and drive through jabs at McDonalds.  

 

We put a man on the moon, it wont be difficult to vaccinate every man woman, child and new born baby in the UK within a year (probably 6 months).  I think with a bit of inventiveness they will be able even get it into foetuses in their mothers womb.

 

 

Maybe this was sarcasm, but a baby still in the womb doesn’t need vaccines...they are protected by their mothers, if they are vaccinated. After birth, they do receive some vaccines pretty quickly, but there’s no need for it before they’re born. 

[sunshine]

1 hour ago, califlorican said:

Maybe this was sarcasm, but a baby still in the womb doesn’t need vaccines...they are protected by their mothers, if they are vaccinated. After birth, they do receive some vaccines pretty quickly, but there’s no need for it before they’re born. 

Yes, under  normal circumstances yes, but we do not know how this new virus will be said to mutate.  Normally you don't have to vaccinate children against the flu, evidently Codiv19 is  like no other Codiv that came before.  We will have wait and see how far the vaccination program has to go...it is after all,  just getting started.  

Edited December 4, 2020 by sunshine

[The Outcast]

The Branch has declared that the COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by Pfizer and BioNTech (COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2) does not contain blood or blood fractions.

[zoebarry]

22 minutes ago, The German said:

The Branch has declared that the COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by Pfizer and BioNTech (COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2) does not contain blood or blood fractions.

Where can we see this declaration? 

[Tortuga]

45 minutes ago, zoebarry said:

Where can we see this declaration? 

Announcements from the Branch are typically read at the next MWM. 

[Old]

Could be the European Branch. There is no word on this from the US Branch at this time.